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you're in the para cast the gold

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standard of paranormal radio and now

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gene Steinberg now those of you have

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been listening to the last couple of

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episodes

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you might recognize something different

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no I don't have a new co-host yet Chris

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sounds the same chris is still Chris

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it's not clone I'm still gene I am NOT a

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clone though some people might wish it

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were otherwise but we have a new theme

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song and the way we got this theme song

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is a gentleman named Roland who is a fan

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of the show said I got an idea for a

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theme song for the para cast would you

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listen to it so Chris Greg Bishop Nick

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Redfern and myself my wife my son we all

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listen to this theme it is absolutely

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fabulous so we want to thank Roland

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Thank You Roland and his company is

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called Blue Sky music and he wants me to

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tell you and I'm happy to say it he does

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themes from movies TV and various media

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so things like ads and stuff like that

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and if you want to find more of what he

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does it's blue sky music.com

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that's blue sky music.com a special

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thank you to Roland for the fabulous

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theme for the para cast Thank You Roland

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now and some other developments with the

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power cast the last two episodes have

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had record download numbers now for

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example last week's show with Michael

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Esposito about EVP while discussion the

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Forbes lots of downloads and the

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previous week we had athlete Sanchez and

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therein lies a tale oh yeah

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Chris tell us about Anthony Sanchez what

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happened two days after that show was

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streamed well you know it's hard not to

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equate he was appearance on the pair of

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cast with what happened the following I

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think Tuesday he sent out a very cryptic

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email to a number of people myself

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included that said he was out of the

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field of ufology his book was not going

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to be released and not to contact him

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don't don't bother contacting him

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respect his privacy

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and then of course this created a

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behind-the-scenes furor I must say

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amongst people who know him and I did

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some checking around Ike I did end up

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talking with Norio Hayakawa's who's good

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friends with his and basically the

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upshot ended up him having a real

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difficult personal crisis that happened

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it was a family matter he doesn't want

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you know it discussed publicly but

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needless to say it was impactful enough

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so that he made this I I think an

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ill-conceived decision to post this

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email which kind of very rapid fire

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fashion zipped around the internet and

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it because no viral it became viral

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amongst people who are interested in his

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particular UFO highway project and one

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of the things that I realized was that

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the guy you know he he's really not I

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think he's not prepared I think for some

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of the peripheral things that happened

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in this field and and perhaps that may

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have impacted his personal problem with

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his family and and stuff but I'm not

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here to judge him I just feel that it

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was very ill conceived on his part to

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then turn around two days after that and

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announced that the book was going to be

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put up for sale as an e-version and oh

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no he's you know he's back in the field

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and it's almost like the little boy

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crying wolf and to me it just really

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takes away what ever credibility he's

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been maintaining and attaining with his

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project it really does put a shadow on

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it and hopefully he'll be able to get

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through his personal difficulties and

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get himself back on track but it was

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very interesting here to see though we

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have this show in the power cast where I

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think we kind of zing them a couple of

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times because he was ill-prepared in

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some of his research very clear he's got

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some more work to do and then quitting

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the field two days later you think hey

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what did we do you know we've done some

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pretty wacky things on the power cast in

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nearly five years you know but you know

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and sometimes

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with new co-hosts people say jeah don't

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do that kind of thing anymore and the

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answer is yes we do but we don't preach

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about it we're just doing yeah yeah yeah

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there's no important preaching you know

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I've I've been talking to the choir for

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so long that there's no real point in it

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and I know you feel the same way and in

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that regard to Jean well we felt you

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know maybe we have this impact on this

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guy you know we quit the field now I

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know we all know what the family problem

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is it's nothing that involves illness

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and let's just leave it be because it's

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a personal issue but I've had other

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people undergo similar family problems

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and they don't quit all their work and

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stop talking to people for the rest of

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their lives

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as a result you have to get on so two

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days later he says okay Here I am again

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the book is gonna be out in eBook form

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which is fine hopefully there will be a

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printed version I'm awaiting a link to a

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copy of the eBook version of UFO highway

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so I could see what it's about and see

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whether he does answer some of the

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questions and concerns but it looks to

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me like he couldn't have completely

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revised the book in two days or four

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days so perhaps some of the inadequate

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research that we pointed to well it's

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still there well I think we should start

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a thread on the podcast forum and do a

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guesstimate of how many copies of this

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he'll actually sell in the first month

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of it being out I would say maybe 20

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well you know what maybe what happened

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to him will cause more people to want to

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go out and buy the book but you know

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that's kind of pushing it there but if

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he doesn't push the book he's not gonna

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sell it because there are lots of books

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out there and selling 20 or 30 copies

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well we're not insulting him we're just

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saying well you know that's where it is

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if you don't have a major publisher

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behind you

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don't have a lot of publicity it's

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really hard see it is almost impossible

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sure I mean you've had books put out by

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professional publishers and it's really

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hard to get sales

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yeah well st. Martin's Press did a very

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good job I mean they really did and I

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went into ten printings on my first book

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so I can't complain but it's really

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difficult there's so much

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you know noise out there and and and

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zeroing in on the signal I think for

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people is is becoming more and more

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difficult and as a result I think people

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tend to be a little gun-shy when they're

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spending their hard-earned cash on books

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and in downloading e-books and that sort

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of thing it's just getting harder and

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harder to really you know create a name

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for yourself in this field as a as a

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bona fide serious research or me and I

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think his appearance on the para cast

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did indicate that maybe this book should

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you should hold off a little bit and do

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a little bit more work on it before just

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rushing it out in releasing it maybe he

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needs an editor you know someone to edit

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the book go through it suggest him areas

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where it could be beefed up because

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that's one thing I mean I've written a

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lot of books I've written over 30 books

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mostly technology and I know that I had

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to depend on copy editors fact-checkers

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and everything else to make sure I did

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the good job that I wanted to do because

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I don't think anybody can be their own

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editor no no it's it's it's virtually

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impossible now today we segue back to

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the UFO field and we've got a really

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straight ahead guy his name is Larry W

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Bryant and he doesn't go on shows very

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often but understand he is one of the

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classic whistleblowers in the UFO field

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trying to get information about what the

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government knows sending Freedom of

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Information requests this guy has been

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doing it I think for 53 years now you

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know he's got quite a track record he

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started when he was one year old you

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want to say this guy's a very old man

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Larry was one year of age and he read a

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book from major Donald Kehoe or

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something and he said you know what I

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got to do this I'll tell him you said

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that gene he'll be listening before we

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bring them on he already knows I have to

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say I got interested in UFOs when I was

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11 mm-hmm and that's before they even

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had anything that was flying before they

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had the printed page before they had TV

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you know before they had even you know

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making impressions and rocks before they

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rock books your first-year first real

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case that you're interested in was

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during the 1897 airship wave then it's

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what it sounds like well the later cases

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of course I'm people thinking of cases

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say you know gene is a mental case and

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when people say that I say you know what

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I resemble that remark you know I really

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do okay so we've got Larry Bryant who's

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God talk about lots of fascinating

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things about UFO today about the state

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of the art about XO politics and other

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things coming up next the co-host is

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Chris O'Brien I'm gene Steinberg you're

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we're back with someone who doesn't go

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on the radio too much or at least not

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recently Larry W Bryant he's been

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following the UFO mystery for 53 years

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which is longer than most of our

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listeners have been alive and I was

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saying Larry before we joined us that

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should remind everybody our co-host is

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Chris O'Brien this week but Larry

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welcome to the podcast and I was kind of

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joking before we started but you got

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involved in UFO research when you were

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one year of age now I assume it was

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somewhat later than that right and

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actually I think I was 19 at that time

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and sometimes think I still am 19

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because there's always something and

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newly inspiring to to keep my interest

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alive in the field

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so I'm seventy two point seven years old

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now and I think that I have at least

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seven years to go before no longer

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productive well you sound very

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productive Rose getting lots of emails

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from you about the things that you're

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doing but what attracted you 53 years

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ago to the UFO mystery guy at the age of

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19 maybe you're thinking of girls you're

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thinking of your profession why UFOs

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well don't think of girls don't tell

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your wife this okay

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no longer married there's a high

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incidence of divorce in this field as

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you probably have discerned yourself

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like that twice but I'm sticking with

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the second one

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there you go you know when I was 19 that

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that was 1957 June of 1957 was the date

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that the first issue of flying saucers

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magazine hit the newsstand I still have

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that copy that I bought for 35 cents it

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was published by a guy that you probably

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had no reference for and that was Paul

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Ray Palmer

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open the door to mine thinking about the

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subject

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more than anything else with caution I

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and back when George Adamski first book

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came out Georgia - he claimed he had a

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direct contact with extraterrestrials

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flying around and saucers that sparked

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my interest as well back in the mid-50s

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so when ice when I got my hands on and

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read it practically every word of that

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flying saucers magazine from Ray

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Palmer's productions that convinced me

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that there was some fertile field for

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the imagination for serious intellectual

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inquiry and for entertainment and I'm in

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it and have been in it as I say from

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that very day

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now I quite often people get involved in

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UFO research very early on they come to

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the conclusion that was prevailing

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especially in the 50s because of major

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Donald Kehoe that UFOs represented et is

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that the feeling you had then what the

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UFOs were manifestations of beings who

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came here for that planet that's because

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the Occam's razor approach to the

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subject matter there is there is

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definitely a paranormal approach toward

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if you consider the wealth of reportage

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claims of contact by so-called

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contactees and and abductees and I don't

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disparage that because that's still part

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of the mystery

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our people being directly contacted

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worldwide by visiting astronauts from

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elsewhere it's a question that needs to

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be answered some people think they have

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already answered it I'm not so sure yet

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and that's what as I say it keeps my

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interest alive it's a great mystery that

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demands our serious attention so Kino

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was right Kehoe was right on two

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elements that the evidence that he was

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collecting from and cetera military

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sources pointed to the facts

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terrestrial origin of some of the

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reported saucer sightings and the other

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point he was right about was that the

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government was not telling us back in

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the fifties and sixties all that it

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knows about UFO reality and you know

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those two prongs of my interest in the

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field are as I say is still in telling

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me to go forward with my own work and my

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record as viewable and a microcosm that

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because mom weblog called HTTP colon

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slash slash UFO u UFOs you all one

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this is our site Larry

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that's my weblog yes okay for the sake

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of our listeners will make it easy is

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that when we post the link to the show

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when people see your name they can click

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on your name I'll have that set up

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shortly and they'll go right to your log

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okay and your your viewers your

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listeners again as they skim through

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that little blog of mine they'll see

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samples of my published material

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references to my books and now get a

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flavor for what what is this old guy now

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trying to do why doesn't he just throw

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up his hands and leave the field well I

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don't work that way never have when one

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has to say there's a mystery that such a

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compelling nature as this one you have

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to stick it out to the end you might

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have little flat trades where you may

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burn out somewhere along the way but you

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never quit and I've known a few was

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others in the field that never quit

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either they died continuing to look at

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Richard Hall he died basically putting

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on his a a UFO history newsletter on his

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deathbed and Kehoe likewise lived into

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his 90s he was still

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very active according to what his

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physical and mental abilities could

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bring to the to the table so I have

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those luminaries J Allen Hynek and that

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was a brain tumor and he he he got the

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first symptom of it during a lecture

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where he he couldn't carry on the wind

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and the electrons and another researcher

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finished at flowing these legends in the

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field are not for me to say never quick

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and the work that you started and and

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hopefully build upon it and and show by

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example what young people can do today

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if they pick this subject up with a

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serious intent and with a focus that

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will carry them from decade to decade

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you know one thinks of the movie galaxy

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quest that satire of Star Trek starring

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Tim Allen and their motto was never give

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up never surrender and I have to tell

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you this neighbors I kind of gave up on

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the UFO field a few times over the years

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you know I'd say you know I had enough

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of this I really got to go out there and

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I have to make a living and I have a

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family and I can't keep doing this and

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then two years later I keep doing this

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so you think back what if February of

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2006

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have Larry Bryant and he is author of

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Larry Bryant longtime UFO researcher

586
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because Chris O'Brien I'm Jean Steinberg

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you're in the para cast and Larry has

588
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been giving us kind of an introduction

589
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to his involvement in the UFO field

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Chris why'd you pick up on that Larry I

591
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noticed in your biographical material

592
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that you were involved writing for

593
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government publications military and

594
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others for quite a number of years over

595
00:27:50,580 --> 00:27:48,460
30 years how did you initially get

596
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involved in that in was the UFO subject

597
00:28:00,269 --> 00:27:55,899
somehow a reason why you got involved in

598
00:28:04,739 --> 00:28:00,279
writing for the government when I left

599
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:04,749
school I had to get a job as an adult at

600
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age 20 and I ended up as a clerk typist

601
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in civil service for the Army in Fort

602
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Monroe Virginia my hometown area and I

603
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also had a genetic predisposition to

604
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want to write writing and editing became

605
00:28:35,609 --> 00:28:31,539
a career for me and my my efforts to

606
00:28:39,210 --> 00:28:35,619
write about the UFO research field we're

607
00:28:42,269 --> 00:28:39,220
very compatible with my chosen career

608
00:28:45,810 --> 00:28:42,279
field the more I wrote on that hobby of

609
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mine the better I became as a writer and

610
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editor and the moral I got promoted and

611
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eventually I retired from that civil

612
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service job back in 1994 and I have not

613
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looked back since the day I walked out

614
00:29:04,739 --> 00:29:02,230
of the Pentagon and said this is that

615
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I'm a free man completely I will have no

616
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:09,909
problems having a wide-open activism on

617
00:29:15,659 --> 00:29:13,450
this subject and activism is where it is

618
00:29:17,340 --> 00:29:15,669
as far as I'm concerned I'm not just

619
00:29:19,799 --> 00:29:17,350
sitting around reading other people's

620
00:29:23,730 --> 00:29:19,809
stuff and commenting on it I'm actually

621
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:23,740
kind of doing original research as best

622
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I can and

623
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and when I was talking online with

624
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Jeanne earlier I realized that actual

625
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politics is not a new form of activism

626
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:41,640
it dates back back to the 15th if you

627
00:29:46,670 --> 00:29:43,650
consider for example a fallout in

628
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California who actually ran for

629
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president on the the question of flying

630
00:29:59,180 --> 00:29:55,080
saucer existence and he's dead now but

631
00:30:03,230 --> 00:29:59,190
he was fairly famous when he was doing

632
00:30:04,700 --> 00:30:03,240
that back in California and that Gabriel

633
00:30:07,700 --> 00:30:04,710
Graham remember his name

634
00:30:09,740 --> 00:30:07,710
Gabriel Greene that's it Gabriel Greene

635
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:09,750
don't ask me how I remember that you

636
00:30:16,430 --> 00:30:11,010
know I'm as old as the hills so I

637
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:16,440
remember that green you known had never

638
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:19,290
heard of EXO politics it's a new recall

639
00:30:24,620 --> 00:30:22,530
in term of several years existence but

640
00:30:28,850 --> 00:30:24,630
but you know what he was a practitioner

641
00:30:34,340 --> 00:30:28,860
of it and then you can fast forward to

642
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:34,350
say the year 2000 2002 when Stephen

643
00:30:41,090 --> 00:30:38,250
Bassett ran for Congress on the UFO

644
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:41,100
disclosure ticket I helped him get

645
00:30:46,060 --> 00:30:42,930
signatures to get his name as an

646
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:46,070
independent candidate on the

647
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Congressional ballot for that year

648
00:30:54,890 --> 00:30:52,380
and and I can tell you this getting

649
00:30:57,140 --> 00:30:54,900
4,000 signatures was not an easy chore

650
00:30:59,960 --> 00:30:57,150
but he had just a small cadre of

651
00:31:03,500 --> 00:30:59,970
dedicated signature gatherers and we

652
00:31:07,430 --> 00:31:03,510
pulled it off he was even invited to a

653
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:07,440
town hall meeting held my that joint led

654
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:09,570
by the Republican and the Democrat

655
00:31:17,300 --> 00:31:12,810
candidate and he actually stood up there

656
00:31:19,580 --> 00:31:17,310
and boldly said what is his motive was

657
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:19,590
for getting into Congress and that was

658
00:31:27,970 --> 00:31:23,930
to facilitate the disclosure that some

659
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:27,980
UFOs really are Hardware from elsewhere

660
00:31:36,060 --> 00:31:32,850
so he became a modern-day leader in the

661
00:31:37,470 --> 00:31:36,070
exo politics field but don't you think

662
00:31:40,110 --> 00:31:37,480
think that would be fair about XO

663
00:31:42,510 --> 00:31:40,120
politics it's gotten pretty extreme it's

664
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not just a simple quest to get

665
00:31:47,580 --> 00:31:45,820
information about UFOs disclosed to the

666
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public but you know what it gets into

667
00:31:51,450 --> 00:31:49,540
political agendas that don't always have

668
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a lot of authority behind them well

669
00:31:58,880 --> 00:31:54,540
there there is a s sort of like an

670
00:32:04,290 --> 00:31:58,890
undertone among some practitioners of

671
00:32:07,670 --> 00:32:04,300
questioning the motives of our current

672
00:32:10,620 --> 00:32:07,680
administration and or the one before

673
00:32:13,350 --> 00:32:10,630
you know then this is free speech as far

674
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:13,360
as I'm concerned that you and this field

675
00:32:19,710 --> 00:32:16,210
especially everyone has a right to to

676
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:19,720
behave foolishly there's no law against

677
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:20,050
that

678
00:32:28,940 --> 00:32:26,050
and every day by mrs. Steinberg you know

679
00:32:32,430 --> 00:32:28,950
they have to learn the hard way that

680
00:32:34,650 --> 00:32:32,440
being indiscriminate about their public

681
00:32:37,350 --> 00:32:34,660
thinking on this subject it's not going

682
00:32:39,660 --> 00:32:37,360
to help their program that it's it's

683
00:32:43,260 --> 00:32:39,670
going to be detrimental to public

684
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:43,270
acceptance of what they've set out to do

685
00:32:49,500 --> 00:32:45,810
and if you can go off and in the extreme

686
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:49,510
format then they're gonna have to learn

687
00:32:53,070 --> 00:32:50,650
from their mistakes

688
00:32:56,070 --> 00:32:53,080
well what example of something I think

689
00:32:59,790 --> 00:32:56,080
is extreme is they have a Bauer

690
00:33:02,850 --> 00:32:59,800
initiative in Denver Colorado to create

691
00:33:04,130 --> 00:33:02,860
an extraterrestrial Affairs Commission

692
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:04,140
what's that all about

693
00:33:13,140 --> 00:33:07,810
well it started a couple of years ago by

694
00:33:16,110 --> 00:33:13,150
a single practitioner of imaginative

695
00:33:18,090 --> 00:33:16,120
thinking now imagine that somebody who

696
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actually said I'm tired of the status

697
00:33:23,250 --> 00:33:20,520
quo I want to do something original in

698
00:33:25,980 --> 00:33:23,260
America how can that be in this day and

699
00:33:31,110 --> 00:33:25,990
age well it happened and the master name

700
00:33:34,350 --> 00:33:31,120
is Jeffrey Beckman Jeffrey decided that

701
00:33:37,020 --> 00:33:34,360
based on his own personal experience he

702
00:33:40,620 --> 00:33:37,030
could bring off such an event as what

703
00:33:43,500 --> 00:33:40,630
he's proposing to do on November the 2nd

704
00:33:46,740 --> 00:33:43,510
of this year at the general election in

705
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:46,750
Denver he got enough signatures four

706
00:33:52,910 --> 00:33:49,530
thousand it seems to be the magic

707
00:33:55,070 --> 00:33:52,920
in activism today in any case he he had

708
00:33:57,710 --> 00:33:55,080
a little small group of volunteers to

709
00:34:02,810 --> 00:33:57,720
help and go door-to-door and getting

710
00:34:05,090 --> 00:34:02,820
signatures on a petition to propose a an

711
00:34:09,820 --> 00:34:05,100
ordinance be passed in the city of

712
00:34:15,310 --> 00:34:09,830
Denver to create and operate a

713
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:15,320
commission dedicated to determining the

714
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:20,450
means and Worth worthiness of having

715
00:34:27,860 --> 00:34:24,330
extraterrestrial interface with whatever

716
00:34:32,210 --> 00:34:27,870
it is it's piloting and controlling the

717
00:34:34,909 --> 00:34:32,220
UFO presence nah I have nothing against

718
00:34:38,020 --> 00:34:34,919
that that's in fact there's a precedent

719
00:34:43,879 --> 00:34:38,030
for what he's done and it happened back

720
00:34:45,190 --> 00:34:43,889
around 2003 or so when a new phone

721
00:34:49,490 --> 00:34:45,200
number

722
00:34:54,770 --> 00:34:49,500
Bob blacksmith who died a year or two

723
00:34:58,220 --> 00:34:54,780
ago Bob got the idea that there should

724
00:35:04,730 --> 00:34:58,230
be a state-level ballot initiative to

725
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:04,740
declare the year 2001 or 2002 declare

726
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:07,610
that year the year of UFO awareness by

727
00:35:14,530 --> 00:35:11,130
Proclamation so I volunteered from

728
00:35:17,030 --> 00:35:14,540
Missouri Missouri the show-me-state

729
00:35:19,190 --> 00:35:17,040
stood up and said I'm trying to get

730
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:19,200
30,000 signatures needed to put it on

731
00:35:23,720 --> 00:35:21,690
the state ballot in Missouri but he just

732
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:23,730
couldn't get enough people to help him

733
00:35:28,820 --> 00:35:25,770
gather those signatures and then there's

734
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:28,830
nothing wrong with having a proclamation

735
00:35:34,970 --> 00:35:30,690
from the governor or the mayor of a

736
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:34,980
major city to declare that the the

737
00:35:41,630 --> 00:35:38,370
status quo that we have today about UFO

738
00:35:45,170 --> 00:35:41,640
reality and the acceptance of the

739
00:35:46,490 --> 00:35:45,180
presence of possible extraterrestrial

740
00:35:50,030 --> 00:35:46,500
visitors there's nothing wrong with

741
00:35:52,300 --> 00:35:50,040
proclaiming that awareness and acting on

742
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:52,310
it in terms of educating the public

743
00:35:59,630 --> 00:35:55,050
raising their and when I call their UFO

744
00:36:02,190 --> 00:35:59,640
et intelligence quotient to a level that

745
00:36:03,870 --> 00:36:02,200
we can produce some results

746
00:36:08,490 --> 00:36:03,880
rather than just sitting around looking

747
00:36:10,830 --> 00:36:08,500
at our youth illogical navel well that's

748
00:36:13,050 --> 00:36:10,840
a good point now I personally agree I

749
00:36:15,450 --> 00:36:13,060
think that there's there's a lot of pop

750
00:36:17,430 --> 00:36:15,460
culture misinformation out there and

751
00:36:19,130 --> 00:36:17,440
especially the younger folks who are

752
00:36:22,860 --> 00:36:19,140
coming along interested in this subject

753
00:36:24,900 --> 00:36:22,870
they tend to be swayed I think by sort

754
00:36:27,420 --> 00:36:24,910
of pop culture thinking it is a very

755
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:27,430
highly complex subject and it does take

756
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:29,650
a bit of work if you really want to get

757
00:36:35,130 --> 00:36:31,930
into it and into the meat of the subject

758
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:35,140
and and I do agree that we do need a I

759
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:38,290
think a coordinated outreach program to

760
00:36:41,730 --> 00:36:39,970
educate especially young folks about

761
00:36:43,230 --> 00:36:41,740
about this subject I'll tell you what

762
00:36:45,660 --> 00:36:43,240
we'll get into more of that with Larry

763
00:36:47,730 --> 00:36:45,670
Bryant our co-host Chris O'Brien in our

764
00:36:56,910 --> 00:36:47,740
next section of the show I'm gene

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847
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849
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856
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865
00:41:04,570 --> 00:41:02,030
the t.com tired of searching for great

866
00:41:05,590 --> 00:41:04,580
talk radio and I think it really does

867
00:41:11,470 --> 00:41:05,600
make a difference

868
00:41:14,260 --> 00:41:11,480
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869
00:41:16,870 --> 00:41:14,270
Don Ecker and you are tuned into the

870
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para cast let me tell you what you're

871
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:19,280
gonna hear stuff here that you probably

872
00:41:29,050 --> 00:41:26,200
Larry Bryan makes his first appearance

873
00:41:31,030 --> 00:41:29,060
on the para cast because Chris O'Brien

874
00:41:33,970 --> 00:41:31,040
I'm Jean Steinberg of course you're in

875
00:41:35,170 --> 00:41:33,980
the para cast and one of the things I

876
00:41:38,590 --> 00:41:35,180
wonder about though if you have these

877
00:41:41,770 --> 00:41:38,600
various ballot initiatives and as we say

878
00:41:43,270 --> 00:41:41,780
local or state level initiatives is that

879
00:41:45,130 --> 00:41:43,280
maybe putting the cart before the horse

880
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:45,140
shouldn't we find out what's really

881
00:41:50,140 --> 00:41:47,170
going on get whatever information

882
00:41:52,750 --> 00:41:50,150
governments have to offer before we set

883
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:52,760
up extraterrestrial Affairs commissions

884
00:41:57,190 --> 00:41:55,490
and stuff like that well I maintain we

885
00:41:58,410 --> 00:41:57,200
and we have enough we've had it for

886
00:42:03,720 --> 00:41:58,420
years

887
00:42:07,210 --> 00:42:03,730
yes I use the analogy of if you see one

888
00:42:10,090 --> 00:42:07,220
one of white crow you don't need to see

889
00:42:12,380 --> 00:42:10,100
many more white crows to realize that

890
00:42:16,099 --> 00:42:12,390
not all crows are blind

891
00:42:20,359 --> 00:42:16,109
and the white crow in this instance is

892
00:42:22,099 --> 00:42:20,369
the wealth of hardcore data that we've

893
00:42:25,220 --> 00:42:22,109
already squeezed out of government

894
00:42:28,130 --> 00:42:25,230
archives data that had been released

895
00:42:30,229 --> 00:42:28,140
upon its origination what it raised

896
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:30,239
quite a better eyebrows back in the

897
00:42:38,509 --> 00:42:34,970
population of 1950s and 1960s this stuff

898
00:42:41,450 --> 00:42:38,519
is now available for anybody to dig up

899
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:41,460
and evaluate it on his own and make its

900
00:42:47,479 --> 00:42:44,249
own decision I don't need anymore that

901
00:42:49,460 --> 00:42:47,489
material to make my own decision it has

902
00:42:51,979 --> 00:42:49,470
concluded along with some other

903
00:42:54,950 --> 00:42:51,989
responsible researchers like Stanton

904
00:42:59,349 --> 00:42:54,960
Friedman that some of the reported

905
00:43:02,440 --> 00:42:59,359
flying saucer encounters represent

906
00:43:06,319 --> 00:43:02,450
hardware from elsewhere piloted by

907
00:43:09,769 --> 00:43:06,329
intelligent beings of some sort and and

908
00:43:14,720 --> 00:43:09,779
they and that evidence if presented say

909
00:43:18,819 --> 00:43:14,730
in a grand jury setting before witnesses

910
00:43:21,170 --> 00:43:18,829
and grand jurors who who would obviously

911
00:43:23,089 --> 00:43:21,180
determine the credibility of the

912
00:43:24,799 --> 00:43:23,099
material presented they would probably

913
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:24,809
come out with an indictment if it were a

914
00:43:31,660 --> 00:43:28,170
criminal case in law and I say that

915
00:43:34,339 --> 00:43:31,670
that's all in evidence I need to act on

916
00:43:37,509 --> 00:43:34,349
and you got to move forward at one point

917
00:43:42,079 --> 00:43:37,519
and get away from the business-as-usual

918
00:43:45,470 --> 00:43:42,089
of collecting analyzing and archiving

919
00:43:48,950 --> 00:43:45,480
UFO sighting reports it hasn't led us to

920
00:43:50,989 --> 00:43:48,960
a definitive solution and I think that

921
00:43:53,269 --> 00:43:50,999
that definitive solution is only going

922
00:43:54,170 --> 00:43:53,279
to come from the grassroots level at

923
00:43:56,329 --> 00:43:54,180
this point

924
00:43:58,670 --> 00:43:56,339
okay well let's maybe pursue this

925
00:44:01,880 --> 00:43:58,680
further you've gone after government

926
00:44:03,620 --> 00:44:01,890
information about UFOs but does the

927
00:44:06,079 --> 00:44:03,630
government really know anything other

928
00:44:10,489 --> 00:44:06,089
than having loads of cases they can't

929
00:44:12,229 --> 00:44:10,499
explain unexplained case do they have

930
00:44:14,749 --> 00:44:12,239
some answers or do they just have all

931
00:44:16,039 --> 00:44:14,759
this data that they really can't say

932
00:44:19,370 --> 00:44:16,049
with them and I would say with the

933
00:44:21,259 --> 00:44:19,380
technological detection devices they

934
00:44:23,809 --> 00:44:21,269
have today they had plenty of answers

935
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:23,819
they just don't want us to know about it

936
00:44:28,140 --> 00:44:25,570
for whatever reason

937
00:44:31,100 --> 00:44:28,150
always said that the Navy has the

938
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:31,110
ultimate control the ultimate power

939
00:44:37,380 --> 00:44:34,330
authority to handle this subject and

940
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:37,390
there's evidence of this floating around

941
00:44:43,070 --> 00:44:39,850
if you if you look hard enough that the

942
00:44:45,090 --> 00:44:43,080
Navy is is probably the most operative

943
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:45,100
controlling factor and what the

944
00:44:52,260 --> 00:44:47,610
government knows and when it knew it

945
00:44:55,490 --> 00:44:52,270
available reality in question - if UFOs

946
00:44:58,500 --> 00:44:55,500
are seen in the air isn't the Air Force

947
00:45:01,110 --> 00:44:58,510
the place to go why the Navy the Navy

948
00:45:06,140 --> 00:45:01,120
has been involved since Roswell the

949
00:45:09,090 --> 00:45:06,150
neighbors been involved since the 1952

950
00:45:13,230 --> 00:45:09,100
estimate of the situation published by

951
00:45:17,240 --> 00:45:13,240
the Air Force and and with a notation on

952
00:45:19,650 --> 00:45:17,250
the bottom of the cover that the Navy's

953
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:19,660
intelligence people Office of Naval

954
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:22,690
Intelligence and the direct role in that

955
00:45:29,370 --> 00:45:27,370
particular report so as I say they have

956
00:45:31,530 --> 00:45:29,380
these ships at sea with all that radar

957
00:45:34,140 --> 00:45:31,540
detection device with planes that fly

958
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:34,150
off of carriers get airborne get up

959
00:45:40,500 --> 00:45:37,090
there and stratosphere with their own

960
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:40,510
gun camera pictures poised cameras

961
00:45:44,730 --> 00:45:42,370
poised to take pictures of these

962
00:45:48,050 --> 00:45:44,740
incoming objects under intelligent

963
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:48,060
control this my friend has to be a

964
00:45:55,140 --> 00:45:51,850
no-brainer as far as the government's

965
00:46:00,810 --> 00:45:55,150
handle on the subject there there have

966
00:46:03,420 --> 00:46:00,820
been for example many personnel back in

967
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:03,430
the days of the national investigations

968
00:46:09,540 --> 00:46:05,890
Committee on aerial phenomena the old

969
00:46:13,140 --> 00:46:09,550
nycap run by major Keyhoe a Marine Corps

970
00:46:15,750 --> 00:46:13,150
major retired Marine Corps score smart

971
00:46:18,540 --> 00:46:15,760
the Navy part of being a board of

972
00:46:22,260 --> 00:46:18,550
directors for nightcap included a Navy

973
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:22,270
admiral where Admiral Roscoe Helen

974
00:46:28,450 --> 00:46:25,570
Keller who became eventually a CIA

975
00:46:30,579 --> 00:46:28,460
director you know interrupts Larry

976
00:46:33,609 --> 00:46:30,589
one of the reasons why people felt

977
00:46:35,530 --> 00:46:33,619
skeptical of my cafe motives was the

978
00:46:38,079 --> 00:46:35,540
heavy usage of military personnel

979
00:46:40,839 --> 00:46:38,089
ex-military personnel and having a

980
00:46:43,390 --> 00:46:40,849
former head of the CIA people were

981
00:46:50,380 --> 00:46:43,400
saying my god it must be a government

982
00:46:55,930 --> 00:46:50,390
disinformation agency so is that man had

983
00:47:01,329 --> 00:46:55,940
a tendency maybe to go that way but it

984
00:47:03,250 --> 00:47:01,339
never did ends up and it died only in

985
00:47:08,770 --> 00:47:03,260
committee report came out and his

986
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:08,780
financial support withered to keep the

987
00:47:15,670 --> 00:47:11,930
organization alive but as I say I think

988
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:15,680
that the military presence in my cat was

989
00:47:22,270 --> 00:47:17,930
a natural outcome of pijo

990
00:47:25,599 --> 00:47:22,280
and inside context do we form a another

991
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:25,609
nother Navy officer was a very very

992
00:47:34,150 --> 00:47:29,210
critical insider contact for for Kehoe

993
00:47:38,140 --> 00:47:34,160
and he he did what was natural he went

994
00:47:41,020 --> 00:47:38,150
to his comrades and arms and said listen

995
00:47:43,720 --> 00:47:41,030
I he we know what's going on and the

996
00:47:46,180 --> 00:47:43,730
public deserves to know and let's get an

997
00:47:51,550 --> 00:47:46,190
organization go on and that's the usual

998
00:47:53,890 --> 00:47:51,560
expertise and your contact record too to

999
00:47:55,060 --> 00:47:53,900
keep it going and I find nothing wrong

1000
00:48:00,070 --> 00:47:55,070
with that

1001
00:48:02,650 --> 00:48:00,080
I knew a medical doctor who was a slight

1002
00:48:07,720 --> 00:48:02,660
surgeon he also died of a brain tumor

1003
00:48:10,359 --> 00:48:07,730
and he was very careful in his research

1004
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:10,369
but and he has a say had been a flight

1005
00:48:16,030 --> 00:48:13,330
surgeon and when he told me that

1006
00:48:19,060 --> 00:48:16,040
whenever he encountered some pilots he

1007
00:48:22,150 --> 00:48:19,070
would always say what about UFOs and one

1008
00:48:25,089 --> 00:48:22,160
of the answers I got back was you really

1009
00:48:28,329 --> 00:48:25,099
don't want to know the answer that was a

1010
00:48:30,790 --> 00:48:28,339
rather cryptic way of saying doctor you

1011
00:48:34,230 --> 00:48:30,800
know this is this is not a frivolous

1012
00:48:36,310 --> 00:48:34,240
subject at all and it's one that pilots

1013
00:48:41,980 --> 00:48:36,320
behind-the-scenes particularly military

1014
00:48:45,250 --> 00:48:41,990
pilots review as a critical subject so

1015
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:45,260
that's all I can say about it like there

1016
00:48:49,750 --> 00:48:47,930
is a military role that's being played

1017
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:49,760
out since the fifties and it hasn't

1018
00:48:54,250 --> 00:48:52,490
stopped to this day well you know what

1019
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:54,260
the other question I would also ask them

1020
00:48:59,380 --> 00:48:57,290
is do you think there is a lot of

1021
00:49:01,150 --> 00:48:59,390
disinformation in the UFO field that

1022
00:49:03,130 --> 00:49:01,160
people from the government intelligence

1023
00:49:05,590 --> 00:49:03,140
agencies whatever they're putting out

1024
00:49:09,100 --> 00:49:05,600
stuff to confuse and befuddled the UFO

1025
00:49:11,410 --> 00:49:09,110
research community has been somewhat

1026
00:49:14,230 --> 00:49:11,420
that I'm not sure the extent of it

1027
00:49:18,790 --> 00:49:14,240
for example there you know the benefits

1028
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:18,800
affair down in New Mexico so named

1029
00:49:27,130 --> 00:49:23,690
bennewitz was getting very close to to

1030
00:49:29,620 --> 00:49:27,140
developing his own insider sources for

1031
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:29,630
UFO information and apparently the Air

1032
00:49:36,190 --> 00:49:31,330
Force Office of Special Investigations

1033
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:36,200
didn't like it so they had him set up to

1034
00:49:41,530 --> 00:49:39,290
be fed disinformation to to cause him

1035
00:49:46,810 --> 00:49:41,540
basically and if that was a nervous

1036
00:49:49,150 --> 00:49:46,820
breakdown over it so let's hope there's

1037
00:49:51,720 --> 00:49:49,160
not many more cases like that going on

1038
00:49:55,060 --> 00:49:51,730
but it wouldn't surprise me that

1039
00:49:59,700 --> 00:49:55,070
counterintelligence people who are

1040
00:50:02,470 --> 00:49:59,710
trained in all kinds of techniques for

1041
00:50:04,210 --> 00:50:02,480
protecting nash so-called national

1042
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:04,220
security information it wouldn't

1043
00:50:09,690 --> 00:50:06,050
surprise me that if they're pushed far

1044
00:50:14,740 --> 00:50:09,700
enough they have to resort to efforts of

1045
00:50:16,540 --> 00:50:14,750
rather than nefarious means and that's

1046
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:16,550
that's just part of the field were

1047
00:50:21,940 --> 00:50:19,970
involved in that likelihood is always

1048
00:50:24,599 --> 00:50:21,950
going to be there because we're knocking

1049
00:50:28,570 --> 00:50:24,609
on a door that's remain closed for

1050
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:28,580
decades and maybe has a few cracks in it

1051
00:50:34,240 --> 00:50:30,290
and the other you know Kehoe talked

1052
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:34,250
about this very subject and he he

1053
00:50:39,940 --> 00:50:36,050
wouldn't refer to what's known as a

1054
00:50:42,849 --> 00:50:39,950
silenced group right in the military the

1055
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:42,859
Seles group were the keepers of the

1056
00:50:49,270 --> 00:50:46,570
secret but there was a countervailing

1057
00:50:51,310 --> 00:50:49,280
sentiment among other officers in the

1058
00:50:53,109 --> 00:50:51,320
military and no this is not the way we

1059
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:53,119
should handle the subject we should be

1060
00:50:57,260 --> 00:50:55,050
open as possible

1061
00:50:59,960 --> 00:50:57,270
therefore with a week and we think that

1062
00:51:02,090 --> 00:50:59,970
the government's making mistake then

1063
00:51:04,550 --> 00:51:02,100
this was going on back in the fifties

1064
00:51:06,860 --> 00:51:04,560
and sixties the sellers group may or may

1065
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:06,870
not have much authority today and there

1066
00:51:15,020 --> 00:51:12,210
may be a glimmer of hope and that there

1067
00:51:19,370 --> 00:51:15,030
are some whistleblowers who are coming

1068
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:19,380
forward in various ways some of whom may

1069
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:22,890
or may not be as credible as others but

1070
00:51:27,710 --> 00:51:24,810
again this is all we have to work with

1071
00:51:31,060 --> 00:51:27,720
we're the only game in town is what the

1072
00:51:33,500 --> 00:51:31,070
government decides and we have to

1073
00:51:35,210 --> 00:51:33,510
evaluate what they put forward and what

1074
00:51:37,850 --> 00:51:35,220
they don't put forward and I'll tell you

1075
00:51:40,190 --> 00:51:37,860
what Larry let's pursue this in our next

1076
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:40,200
hour we have Larry Bryant co-host Chris

1077
00:51:51,980 --> 00:51:42,810
O'Brien I'm gene Steinberg you're in the

1078
00:51:53,870 --> 00:51:51,990
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1079
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1080
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1093
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1094
00:52:27,950 --> 00:52:27,060
carding to a private bank having it led

1095
00:52:29,750 --> 00:52:27,960
back at interest

1096
00:52:31,580 --> 00:52:29,760
forcing taxes to service debt this

1097
00:52:33,020 --> 00:52:31,590
capitalism was Jefferson correct when

1098
00:52:34,670 --> 00:52:33,030
stating a central bank issuing the

1099
00:52:35,810 --> 00:52:34,680
public currency is a greater menace to

1100
00:52:37,580 --> 00:52:35,820
the liberties of the people than a

1101
00:52:38,720 --> 00:52:37,590
standing army Ted Anderson I'm placing a

1102
00:52:40,730 --> 00:52:38,730
free silver dollar in a book that

1103
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:40,740
explains our monetary system call for

1104
00:52:47,090 --> 00:52:44,010
your copy 800 686 to 237 it's time to

1105
00:52:54,450 --> 00:52:47,100
understand the system call 866 to 237

1106
00:53:00,099 --> 00:52:57,280
welcome back to the pear cast the gold

1107
00:53:08,260 --> 00:53:00,109
standard of paranormal radio and now

1108
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:08,270
here's Jean Steinberg in his vest et

1109
00:53:14,770 --> 00:53:11,450
voice pieces I had try them one more

1110
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:14,780
time Chris Laurita cos oh well each he

1111
00:53:17,650 --> 00:53:16,490
has to speak in a high-pitched voice is

1112
00:53:20,740 --> 00:53:17,660
something about ET

1113
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:20,750
I think 80s have a predilection for

1114
00:53:24,820 --> 00:53:23,450
helium yeah I should get a good tank

1115
00:53:26,950 --> 00:53:24,830
just to just to make it interesting

1116
00:53:30,070 --> 00:53:26,960
there Jean you know years ago Howard

1117
00:53:33,670 --> 00:53:30,080
Stern had his whole crew inhale helium

1118
00:53:35,349 --> 00:53:33,680
on the air forget about it I'm gene

1119
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:35,359
steinberger in the power cast we have

1120
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:37,010
Larry Bryant who is putting up with our

1121
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:39,170
guff and we're trying to make sense of

1122
00:53:42,849 --> 00:53:41,210
all this now Larry you've been the

1123
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:42,859
whistleblower all these years you've

1124
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:44,810
gone after the government to get freedom

1125
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:47,090
of information documents how is that

1126
00:53:52,660 --> 00:53:49,570
fair when did this all start for you

1127
00:53:55,750 --> 00:53:52,670
actually I'm not a whistleblower but I

1128
00:54:00,550 --> 00:53:55,760
am a cheerleader for whistleblowing

1129
00:54:04,030 --> 00:54:00,560
to the extent that I still I'm still

1130
00:54:06,970 --> 00:54:04,040
cheering today for people like Colonel

1131
00:54:10,780 --> 00:54:06,980
Corso an army lieutenant colonel who

1132
00:54:12,490 --> 00:54:10,790
retired from the Army and eventually

1133
00:54:14,950 --> 00:54:12,500
wrote a book called the day after

1134
00:54:16,030 --> 00:54:14,960
Roswell now let me just stop there let

1135
00:54:18,010 --> 00:54:16,040
me stop there that's been pretty

1136
00:54:22,410 --> 00:54:18,020
controversial as you know yeah they're

1137
00:54:24,310 --> 00:54:22,420
both lot of complaints that maybe Corsos

1138
00:54:26,020 --> 00:54:24,320
background the statements were an

1139
00:54:28,420 --> 00:54:26,030
accurate that maybe bill burns the

1140
00:54:31,540 --> 00:54:28,430
co-author edited the book so heavily

1141
00:54:34,300 --> 00:54:31,550
that maybe there are things there that

1142
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:34,310
are missing or exaggerated but you

1143
00:54:39,700 --> 00:54:37,490
accept Corsos basic premise here that he

1144
00:54:42,340 --> 00:54:39,710
was the bag man who brought et

1145
00:54:43,359 --> 00:54:42,350
technology into private industry if it

1146
00:54:46,150 --> 00:54:43,369
wasn't he

1147
00:54:49,720 --> 00:54:46,160
it probably was somebody else that he

1148
00:54:55,470 --> 00:54:49,730
that he worked with or knew to some

1149
00:54:59,080 --> 00:54:55,480
extent the core a story of course shows

1150
00:55:02,349 --> 00:54:59,090
involvement with exploitation of the

1151
00:55:04,030 --> 00:55:02,359
Roswell debris has a true ring to it

1152
00:55:05,860 --> 00:55:04,040
because let's face it if Roswell

1153
00:55:09,850 --> 00:55:05,870
occurred debris

1154
00:55:12,700 --> 00:55:09,860
was scarfed up by the authorities was

1155
00:55:16,270 --> 00:55:12,710
probably analyzed in the cursory way and

1156
00:55:19,660 --> 00:55:16,280
stored somewhere and according to Corsos

1157
00:55:22,690 --> 00:55:19,670
account part of that debris was parceled

1158
00:55:26,980 --> 00:55:22,700
out to the army to the Air Force and the

1159
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:26,990
Navy which makes sense to me if you've

1160
00:55:32,740 --> 00:55:29,210
got something that needs to be analyzed

1161
00:55:36,070 --> 00:55:32,750
and Exploited then you gotta send it put

1162
00:55:39,730 --> 00:55:36,080
it in the people's hands get contractors

1163
00:55:41,860 --> 00:55:39,740
involved and and do the exploitation now

1164
00:55:44,110 --> 00:55:41,870
whether they they have really had the

1165
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:44,120
authority to do it as much as they did

1166
00:55:51,070 --> 00:55:48,530
and enrich the military-industrial

1167
00:55:52,930 --> 00:55:51,080
complex that's a whole new political

1168
00:55:55,630 --> 00:55:52,940
question but the point is is to the

1169
00:55:59,110 --> 00:55:55,640
history does it make sense and it does

1170
00:56:03,850 --> 00:55:59,120
to me in court so and to say he may have

1171
00:56:07,510 --> 00:56:03,860
had some personal flaws but in general

1172
00:56:10,540 --> 00:56:07,520
he he would have you know had a hell and

1173
00:56:13,450 --> 00:56:10,550
I had a high security plans when he was

1174
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:13,460
working in the Pentagon and under a

1175
00:56:21,460 --> 00:56:16,610
general Trudeau and the research and

1176
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:21,470
development community then I'd say I

1177
00:56:27,970 --> 00:56:23,210
gave him the benefit of the doubt that

1178
00:56:29,860 --> 00:56:27,980
his core story makes a lot of sense and

1179
00:56:32,380 --> 00:56:29,870
I've gone back and forth about Corso

1180
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:32,390
ever since the power cast first debuted

1181
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:34,970
in 2006 we had bill burns on several

1182
00:56:41,500 --> 00:56:38,090
times to talk about it and I understand

1183
00:56:43,150 --> 00:56:41,510
the concerns apparently his credentials

1184
00:56:46,630 --> 00:56:43,160
were maybe misidentified in the book

1185
00:56:49,900 --> 00:56:46,640
there were lots of typos or or poor

1186
00:56:53,410 --> 00:56:49,910
editing issues but the thing is in

1187
00:56:56,710 --> 00:56:53,420
general here here's a guy who has a very

1188
00:56:58,540 --> 00:56:56,720
credible reputation in the military why

1189
00:57:00,310 --> 00:56:58,550
would he at the end of his life come up

1190
00:57:01,990 --> 00:57:00,320
with this stuff if it's nonsense why

1191
00:57:05,110 --> 00:57:02,000
would he do it he had a simple

1192
00:57:08,050 --> 00:57:05,120
explanation his children said that I

1193
00:57:09,940 --> 00:57:08,060
want you daddy or grandfather I want you

1194
00:57:12,790 --> 00:57:09,950
to put your story on record because

1195
00:57:15,610 --> 00:57:12,800
you've been a you've been a historical

1196
00:57:18,630 --> 00:57:15,620
player in this thing and and you need to

1197
00:57:21,510 --> 00:57:18,640
come out and put it on record and now

1198
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:21,520
simple explanation I don't know if it

1199
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:23,770
satisfies most people but it satisfies

1200
00:57:31,410 --> 00:57:29,770
me for the time being well I'm I'm I was

1201
00:57:34,470 --> 00:57:31,420
just gonna point out that the open minds

1202
00:57:36,540 --> 00:57:34,480
group down there and Tempe AZ has

1203
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:36,550
actually I think published his original

1204
00:57:40,860 --> 00:57:39,130
manuscript prior to bill burns his

1205
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:40,870
involvement and I have yet to see

1206
00:57:45,450 --> 00:57:42,970
somebody compare the two it would be an

1207
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:45,460
interesting project for somebody to see

1208
00:57:50,460 --> 00:57:48,250
how much actually was changed in the in

1209
00:57:52,500 --> 00:57:50,470
the actual final versions of the book

1210
00:57:53,850 --> 00:57:52,510
that Burns was involved with one of the

1211
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:53,860
things that you brought up before Larry

1212
00:57:58,560 --> 00:57:56,050
that I want to touch on here real quick

1213
00:58:00,870 --> 00:57:58,570
is is you know we've been talking about

1214
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:00,880
the military in the government and you

1215
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:01,930
did bring up the military-industrial

1216
00:58:08,970 --> 00:58:04,890
complex and and this whole idea of

1217
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:08,980
compartmentalization of of these secrets

1218
00:58:13,470 --> 00:58:10,930
if you will how much do you think the

1219
00:58:16,710 --> 00:58:13,480
government really knows do you think a

1220
00:58:18,900 --> 00:58:16,720
lot of this real super secure

1221
00:58:21,180 --> 00:58:18,910
information is being held in the hands

1222
00:58:24,830 --> 00:58:21,190
of private corporations like Bechtel and

1223
00:58:29,490 --> 00:58:24,840
and Lockheed and McDonnell Douglas and

1224
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:29,500
you know the RAND Corporation TRW groups

1225
00:58:34,650 --> 00:58:31,450
like that how much do you think has been

1226
00:58:37,350 --> 00:58:34,660
compartmentalized away from the Larry

1227
00:58:39,450 --> 00:58:37,360
Bryant's and the John Greenwald's and

1228
00:58:42,870 --> 00:58:39,460
the FOI a request into the private

1229
00:58:45,150 --> 00:58:42,880
sector do you have a sense of that 99%

1230
00:58:49,020 --> 00:58:45,160
of the hard core information in the

1231
00:58:54,450 --> 00:58:49,030
government's hands has been continues to

1232
00:58:57,570 --> 00:58:54,460
be under wraps and the part of that

1233
00:59:00,660 --> 00:58:57,580
ninety nine percent includes gun camera

1234
00:59:02,430 --> 00:59:00,670
pictures from other sectors yes you

1235
00:59:05,220 --> 00:59:02,440
don't need any better information than

1236
00:59:08,090 --> 00:59:05,230
that to make a conclusion a jet fighter

1237
00:59:11,940 --> 00:59:08,100
up there in the stratosphere with

1238
00:59:15,300 --> 00:59:11,950
hi-tech gun cameras is going to capture

1239
00:59:18,780 --> 00:59:15,310
some major footage and of course we've

1240
00:59:22,140 --> 00:59:18,790
had gun cameras go back there

1241
00:59:25,940 --> 00:59:22,150
to the sixties at leaf and I'm sure that

1242
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:25,950
they probably had stereoscopic

1243
00:59:34,350 --> 00:59:29,290
capability on these gun cameras today in

1244
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:34,360
you know color film with infrared all

1245
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:36,490
kinds of stuff we don't know for sure

1246
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:39,130
because again that's a military secret

1247
00:59:44,970 --> 00:59:41,290
that's stuff we don't want our enemies

1248
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:44,980
to replicate any time soon it's the

1249
00:59:49,770 --> 00:59:46,810
technology that we have that's being

1250
00:59:52,830 --> 00:59:49,780
held secret not as well as what they're

1251
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:52,840
actually filming so the combination of

1252
00:59:57,950 --> 00:59:54,970
that what the intelligence community

1253
01:00:00,360 --> 00:59:57,960
calls sources and methods of

1254
01:00:03,180 --> 01:00:00,370
intelligence collection and analysis

1255
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:03,190
they rightfully want to protect stuff

1256
01:00:08,210 --> 01:00:05,410
like that because there's other people

1257
01:00:14,550 --> 01:00:08,220
who'd like to get your hands on the same

1258
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:14,560
material that we have but again you know

1259
01:00:20,820 --> 01:00:18,010
if there's a threat from UFOs we should

1260
01:00:24,090 --> 01:00:20,830
know about it we are the people of the

1261
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:24,100
government you know we're both the

1262
01:00:27,690 --> 01:00:26,050
governors and the government in this

1263
01:00:30,540 --> 01:00:27,700
country and we have a right to know if

1264
01:00:35,700 --> 01:00:30,550
whatever threat exists you know there is

1265
01:00:37,980 --> 01:00:35,710
no way keep it secret well that is the

1266
01:00:41,550 --> 01:00:37,990
crux of the issue why is the government

1267
01:00:42,540 --> 01:00:41,560
afraid to let its own people know what's

1268
01:00:46,470 --> 01:00:42,550
going on

1269
01:00:50,580 --> 01:00:46,480
maybe there's some nefarious policy that

1270
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:50,590
says we will lose the allegiance of our

1271
01:00:56,970 --> 01:00:52,690
people if we admit that we've misled

1272
01:00:59,460 --> 01:00:56,980
them for forty some years where is how

1273
01:01:02,460 --> 01:00:59,470
do you keep a secret that long multiple

1274
01:01:05,190 --> 01:01:02,470
administration's multiple levels of

1275
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:05,200
leadership changes in the military and

1276
01:01:12,330 --> 01:01:07,690
intelligence agencies how can you keep

1277
01:01:14,070 --> 01:01:12,340
this singular item of secret well we

1278
01:01:17,700 --> 01:01:14,080
have had leaks of information

1279
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:17,710
remember the Iranian jet interceptor

1280
01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:22,650
case of the back in was late seventies

1281
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:29,130
in the Iranian Air Force has dispatched

1282
01:01:36,690 --> 01:01:32,530
interceptors to check out our UFO

1283
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:36,700
sighting and when they did the result

1284
01:01:41,290 --> 01:01:39,010
was a member not only negative but

1285
01:01:43,420 --> 01:01:41,300
dangerous because the

1286
01:01:45,580 --> 01:01:43,430
one of the intercepting pilots was

1287
01:01:49,930 --> 01:01:45,590
getting ready to arm these weapons and

1288
01:01:52,780 --> 01:01:49,940
maybe shoot at the interloper and when

1289
01:01:56,050 --> 01:01:52,790
that happened the systems of the entire

1290
01:01:58,230 --> 01:01:56,060
jet interceptor failed and that you know

1291
01:02:04,930 --> 01:01:58,240
that's enough to make a lot of people

1292
01:02:07,510 --> 01:02:04,940
retire from the military this was first

1293
01:02:09,970 --> 01:02:07,520
it was leaked this account with leaked

1294
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:09,980
to the public and eventually through the

1295
01:02:16,359 --> 01:02:13,130
Freedom of Information Act the Air Force

1296
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:16,369
owned up yes we have this document and

1297
01:02:21,220 --> 01:02:18,170
it doesn't show really much of anything

1298
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:21,230
but you can have it well have a lot more

1299
01:02:27,010 --> 01:02:23,930
in a moment but we have Larry Bryant he

1300
01:02:30,340 --> 01:02:27,020
used a long time UFO investigator we're

1301
01:02:34,150 --> 01:02:30,350
covering what he feels is the existence

1302
01:02:37,090 --> 01:02:34,160
the proof that UFOs are here because

1303
01:02:39,700 --> 01:02:37,100
they are et our co-host is Chris O'Brien

1304
01:02:47,250 --> 01:02:39,710
I'm gene Steinberg you're in the para

1305
01:02:47,260 --> 01:02:50,990
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1306
01:02:57,180 --> 01:02:55,020
is there a secret UFO agenda to strange

1307
01:02:59,670 --> 01:02:57,190
creatures from the darkest corners of

1308
01:03:02,510 --> 01:02:59,680
the mind roam the earth is there

1309
01:03:06,180 --> 01:03:02,520
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1310
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:06,190
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1311
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1320
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1321
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1322
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1323
01:03:52,609 --> 01:03:51,410
have you ever felt like the United

1324
01:03:54,859 --> 01:03:52,619
States government knows way too much

1325
01:03:56,630 --> 01:03:54,869
about your financial affairs I continue

1326
01:03:58,910 --> 01:03:56,640
to hear stories about property seizures

1327
01:04:01,010 --> 01:03:58,920
frozen bank accounts confiscation of

1328
01:04:02,900 --> 01:04:01,020
stocks and bonds it makes me wonder if

1329
01:04:04,910 --> 01:04:02,910
the US citizen will ever again have the

1330
01:04:07,370 --> 01:04:04,920
right to life liberty and the pursuit of

1331
01:04:09,410 --> 01:04:07,380
happiness unfortunately with the drug

1332
01:04:12,260 --> 01:04:09,420
and money laundering Act the IRS Revenue

1333
01:04:13,609 --> 01:04:12,270
Ruling 60/45 of 1984 and the trading

1334
01:04:16,549 --> 01:04:13,619
with the enemy Act in Franklin D

1335
01:04:18,410 --> 01:04:16,559
Roosevelt executive order of 1933 some

1336
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:18,420
precious metal holdings are subject to

1337
01:04:22,190 --> 01:04:20,490
government intervention for this reason

1338
01:04:23,930 --> 01:04:22,200
Midas Resources has prepared a report

1339
01:04:25,849 --> 01:04:23,940
explaining the boundaries of trading

1340
01:04:27,710 --> 01:04:25,859
precious metals privately whether if you

1341
01:04:29,510 --> 01:04:27,720
have any intention of trading with Midas

1342
01:04:31,039 --> 01:04:29,520
resources or not I have instructed my

1343
01:04:35,269 --> 01:04:31,049
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1344
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1345
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1346
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1347
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O'Brien's the co-host and we're

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exploring what they know or don't know

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01:07:44,310 --> 01:07:41,800
about UFOs and if it's all DT okay

1399
01:07:46,380 --> 01:07:44,320
that's one thing but what about all the

1400
01:07:47,790 --> 01:07:46,390
side issues that we have in the UFO

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01:07:50,670 --> 01:07:47,800
field and we have those stuff that

1402
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:50,680
Jacque fillet brought to the table John

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kill many others about other events that

1404
01:07:57,890 --> 01:07:55,930
indicate maybe it's far more than et

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01:08:01,380 --> 01:07:57,900
what do you think about all that Larry

1406
01:08:04,260 --> 01:08:01,390
you know theories are are fine to look

1407
01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:04,270
at these people into an alliance

1408
01:08:09,390 --> 01:08:06,250
well what would really do we dealing

1409
01:08:12,990 --> 01:08:09,400
with partially here is a mythology the

1410
01:08:16,070 --> 01:08:13,000
mythology of UFO research basically

1411
01:08:19,110 --> 01:08:16,080
there's a lot of symbolism involved

1412
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:19,120
imagery that can be interpreted in one

1413
01:08:27,210 --> 01:08:22,890
way or another and so the the field of

1414
01:08:29,070 --> 01:08:27,220
studying myths comes to play here to

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01:08:31,950 --> 01:08:29,080
some degree and there's nothing wrong

1416
01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:31,960
with that well this is what culture is

1417
01:08:41,190 --> 01:08:35,410
all about we have a subculture called

1418
01:08:44,099 --> 01:08:41,200
UFO research and it's fed by the

1419
01:08:46,610 --> 01:08:44,109
methodological premises just as any

1420
01:08:50,730 --> 01:08:46,620
other subculture would be to some extent

1421
01:08:55,620 --> 01:08:50,740
and as I say that's part of the picture

1422
01:08:58,829 --> 01:08:55,630
so next question interesting I want to

1423
01:09:00,840 --> 01:08:58,839
jump in here on now and why for instance

1424
01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:00,850
it would be here would be my response to

1425
01:09:04,590 --> 01:09:03,250
to that and I do kind of hear a Larry

1426
01:09:06,750 --> 01:09:04,600
that you're saying look if it looks like

1427
01:09:09,210 --> 01:09:06,760
a duck and it quacks like a duck chances

1428
01:09:11,130 --> 01:09:09,220
are it's a duck and I think for a

1429
01:09:13,289 --> 01:09:11,140
majority of the field that that that

1430
01:09:16,169 --> 01:09:13,299
pretty much holds true but

1431
01:09:18,240 --> 01:09:16,179
there's a lot of things that have been

1432
01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:18,250
reported over the decades that just

1433
01:09:23,700 --> 01:09:20,650
don't make sense in terms of the actual

1434
01:09:26,069 --> 01:09:23,710
behavior of the pilots the Beechcraft

1435
01:09:28,379 --> 01:09:26,079
when they land why why do they still

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01:09:30,839 --> 01:09:28,389
need to come out of the ship

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for instance and walk around and pick

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flowers and look at rocks like they've

1439
01:09:36,180 --> 01:09:34,719
never seen them before I mean we both

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know that we could stick something up

1441
01:09:40,379 --> 01:09:38,500
with our level of Technology the size of

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a beer keg in orbit around this planet

1443
01:09:44,430 --> 01:09:42,790
and pretty much determined almost

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anything that you could possibly want to

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01:09:51,269 --> 01:09:48,059
know and maybe maybe they have a

1446
01:09:53,189 --> 01:09:51,279
attendance to them we humans have the

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01:09:55,620 --> 01:09:53,199
tourists maybe what they want to take

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01:10:03,600 --> 01:09:55,630
some artifacts back home and short to

1449
01:10:06,390 --> 01:10:03,610
the kids so basically then when we have

1450
01:10:08,910 --> 01:10:06,400
a million UFO crews coming down here

1451
01:10:11,370 --> 01:10:08,920
each of which takes soil samples it's

1452
01:10:13,260 --> 01:10:11,380
because it's different families and we

1453
01:10:14,910 --> 01:10:13,270
want to come and do their own stuff you

1454
01:10:19,919 --> 01:10:14,920
know they're visiting the Grand Canyon

1455
01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:19,929
which in this case is Earth gets the

1456
01:10:28,979 --> 01:10:25,570
blonde hair from a young lady that they

1457
01:10:32,010 --> 01:10:28,989
have an attraction to so no listen that

1458
01:10:35,220 --> 01:10:32,020
their motors certainly worth looking

1459
01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:35,230
into because if the abduction phenomenon

1460
01:10:41,189 --> 01:10:38,650
has any substance to it then we're in

1461
01:10:45,270 --> 01:10:41,199
trouble we we are sitting ducks for

1462
01:10:49,830 --> 01:10:45,280
anytime a fellow citizen attracts the

1463
01:10:52,979 --> 01:10:49,840
interest of a UFO abductor and our

1464
01:10:54,750 --> 01:10:52,989
government has shamefully stuck its head

1465
01:10:57,680 --> 01:10:54,760
in the ground the back to spirit they

1466
01:11:01,229 --> 01:10:57,690
don't want to touch the abduction cases

1467
01:11:04,169 --> 01:11:01,239
at all it's just that's a it's a

1468
01:11:06,899 --> 01:11:04,179
no-man's land of inquiry now what does

1469
01:11:09,750 --> 01:11:06,909
that tell you it something's wrong with

1470
01:11:12,450 --> 01:11:09,760
that equation the government should be

1471
01:11:15,990 --> 01:11:12,460
looking into abductions and they they

1472
01:11:19,799 --> 01:11:16,000
had a chance back in the 60s before the

1473
01:11:22,820 --> 01:11:19,809
the the the more widely known cases

1474
01:11:26,670 --> 01:11:22,830
occurred there was an abduction and

1475
01:11:30,270 --> 01:11:26,680
Chesapeake Virginia of a TV repair shop

1476
01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:30,280
owner who was working very late into the

1477
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night into the early morning hours in

1478
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fact and when he closed up his shop to

1479
01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:38,230
go home left the building he saw

1480
01:11:47,190 --> 01:11:43,210
something flying hovering down within

1481
01:11:51,900 --> 01:11:47,200
eyesight and and so he eventually

1482
01:11:54,570 --> 01:11:51,910
reported this to the FBI and the FBI did

1483
01:11:57,150 --> 01:11:54,580
a one-page memorandum on this saying

1484
01:12:00,330 --> 01:11:57,160
that the man could not recall a certain

1485
01:12:03,030 --> 01:12:00,340
period of several hours after he had

1486
01:12:04,860 --> 01:12:03,040
left the shop you know what that's

1487
01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:04,870
called that's called missing time

1488
01:12:13,500 --> 01:12:11,050
syndrome which abductees have and in a

1489
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:13,510
lot of cases where they they are

1490
01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:15,970
returned to their home or an automobile

1491
01:12:21,570 --> 01:12:18,730
or picnic table wherever they were duck

1492
01:12:23,790 --> 01:12:21,580
pen then and they did they do that had

1493
01:12:27,480 --> 01:12:23,800
no relaxed recollection of a certain

1494
01:12:29,790 --> 01:12:27,490
period of time so this is a legal matter

1495
01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:29,800
a law enforcement matter well you know

1496
01:12:34,110 --> 01:12:31,570
another thing I have to interrupt here

1497
01:12:36,540 --> 01:12:34,120
one of the more controversial aspects of

1498
01:12:38,940 --> 01:12:36,550
so-called abduction research is how do

1499
01:12:41,130 --> 01:12:38,950
you on earth the memories of the period

1500
01:12:43,440 --> 01:12:41,140
where someone blacked out lost time

1501
01:12:45,690 --> 01:12:43,450
whatever the missing time and some say

1502
01:12:47,340 --> 01:12:45,700
okay hypnotic regression but then that's

1503
01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:47,350
very controversial you know you can take

1504
01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:49,810
David Jacobs dr. David Jacobs in one

1505
01:12:54,540 --> 01:12:51,970
room and in the same room put Kevin

1506
01:12:57,150 --> 01:12:54,550
Randall and Kevin Randall says no it's

1507
01:12:59,610 --> 01:12:57,160
not reliable abduction investigation

1508
01:13:01,320 --> 01:12:59,620
using hypnotic regression David Jacobs

1509
01:13:04,170 --> 01:13:01,330
says it is so where do you stand on that

1510
01:13:06,650 --> 01:13:04,180
I'd say that any technique that

1511
01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:06,660
seriously undertaken should continue to

1512
01:13:12,330 --> 01:13:09,850
take place because we weren't a

1513
01:13:14,550 --> 01:13:12,340
disadvantage at this point if the

1514
01:13:17,750 --> 01:13:14,560
government does know about abductions it

1515
01:13:20,910 --> 01:13:17,760
knows more than it wants to tell us and

1516
01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:20,920
and this is dangerous behavior on the

1517
01:13:25,410 --> 01:13:22,690
part of the government and we're still

1518
01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:25,420
stuck with the possibility that anybody

1519
01:13:30,750 --> 01:13:28,090
on the planet can be abducted at well by

1520
01:13:34,170 --> 01:13:30,760
creatures from wherever they're

1521
01:13:35,220 --> 01:13:34,180
originated and as I say it's a law

1522
01:13:37,950 --> 01:13:35,230
enforcement

1523
01:13:40,440 --> 01:13:37,960
it's a public safety minor and while

1524
01:13:42,660 --> 01:13:40,450
we're allowing this to go on if it is

1525
01:13:45,510 --> 01:13:42,670
and I have any number of people who

1526
01:13:49,620 --> 01:13:45,520
claim to be abducted they show no signs

1527
01:13:52,410 --> 01:13:49,630
of dementia of psychotic behavior at all

1528
01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:52,420
in fact if anything there they show

1529
01:13:56,940 --> 01:13:55,090
signs of being too normal so the guy I

1530
01:14:00,090 --> 01:13:56,950
say the jury's still out on the

1531
01:14:03,020 --> 01:14:00,100
credibility of the abduction phenomena

1532
01:14:06,690 --> 01:14:03,030
itself and on the efficacy of

1533
01:14:10,140 --> 01:14:06,700
researchers looking into whatever it is

1534
01:14:13,410 --> 01:14:10,150
they can find so I say do not close the

1535
01:14:15,030 --> 01:14:13,420
door on abduction research trying to get

1536
01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:15,040
whistleblowers within the government to

1537
01:14:20,580 --> 01:14:17,290
open up on this subject as well as just

1538
01:14:22,440 --> 01:14:20,590
the basic nuts and both hardware issue

1539
01:14:24,420 --> 01:14:22,450
well you know what the other question is

1540
01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:24,430
here is the government complicit maybe

1541
01:14:29,220 --> 01:14:26,170
they're in touch with et and they say

1542
01:14:31,410 --> 01:14:29,230
okay you are allowed to take some

1543
01:14:34,140 --> 01:14:31,420
samples to take specimens if you don't

1544
01:14:35,970 --> 01:14:34,150
hurt anybody go ahead and abduct you

1545
01:14:39,630 --> 01:14:35,980
know so many people do you believe in

1546
01:14:42,540 --> 01:14:39,640
any of that early use the word belief

1547
01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:42,550
that have been rumors that there has

1548
01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:48,130
been military presence in some cases of

1549
01:14:52,050 --> 01:14:50,170
UFO abductions I don't know how

1550
01:14:55,320 --> 01:14:52,060
substance these substances the

1551
01:14:59,250 --> 01:14:55,330
enrollments are but again the point is

1552
01:15:03,020 --> 01:14:59,260
that this mystery is so spread around so

1553
01:15:06,690 --> 01:15:03,030
amorphous that it spawns rumors

1554
01:15:10,140 --> 01:15:06,700
conjecture this information on a part of

1555
01:15:13,940 --> 01:15:10,150
not only government agents but also on

1556
01:15:18,420 --> 01:15:13,950
the part of people who have an agenda of

1557
01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:18,430
some you know intellectual agenda that

1558
01:15:23,670 --> 01:15:21,010
that's not harmonious with what other

1559
01:15:25,530 --> 01:15:23,680
people have why maybe some people just

1560
01:15:28,170 --> 01:15:25,540
want to sell books and earn the money

1561
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from the lecture tours get their 15 or

1562
01:15:32,340 --> 01:15:29,920
30 minutes of fame and don't really care

1563
01:15:34,770 --> 01:15:32,350
about finding out about UFOs we have

1564
01:15:36,420 --> 01:15:34,780
Larry Bryant joining us long time UFO

1565
01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:36,430
investigator the co-host is Chris

1566
01:15:46,510 --> 01:15:39,250
O'Brien and now he's preparing his best

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1612
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1613
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1614
01:17:53,630 --> 01:17:50,600
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1615
01:17:55,550 --> 01:17:53,640
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1616
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1617
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1618
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1619
01:18:04,580 --> 01:18:02,160
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1620
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1621
01:18:08,750 --> 01:18:06,540
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1622
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1623
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1624
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1625
01:18:21,380 --> 01:18:14,520
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1626
01:18:22,910 --> 01:18:21,390
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1627
01:18:24,470 --> 01:18:22,920
wondered why banks stockbrokers

1628
01:18:26,410 --> 01:18:24,480
investment advisors won't talk about

1629
01:18:28,940 --> 01:18:26,420
gold IRAs they've been available since

1630
01:18:30,740 --> 01:18:28,950
1986 yet the financial industry won't

1631
01:18:32,660 --> 01:18:30,750
recognize the value of gold for your

1632
01:18:35,030 --> 01:18:32,670
attire mint gold has outperformed paper

1633
01:18:36,590 --> 01:18:35,040
investments yet no word about IRAs if

1634
01:18:40,280 --> 01:18:36,600
you would like to have gold for your

1635
01:18:42,110 --> 01:18:40,290
retirement call 866 to 237 don't get

1636
01:19:15,830 --> 01:18:42,120
left behind by rising inflation and low

1637
01:19:17,780 --> 01:19:15,840
returns call 806-853-9949 your pocket

1638
01:19:20,030 --> 01:19:17,790
simply use one finger to pull it out

1639
01:19:22,130 --> 01:19:20,040
with cliffhanger clip anger is thin and

1640
01:19:24,590 --> 01:19:22,140
simple as a one-year warranty against

1641
01:19:26,510 --> 01:19:24,600
breakage and prices start at only 295

1642
01:19:28,250 --> 01:19:26,520
with your cliffhanger purchase we'll

1643
01:19:30,020 --> 01:19:28,260
also send you thought o hook for your

1644
01:19:32,330 --> 01:19:30,030
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1645
01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:32,340
absolutely free see the amazing cliff

1646
01:19:36,410 --> 01:19:33,930
hanger and the top hanger light with its

1647
01:19:38,960 --> 01:19:36,420
built in LED flashlight at my phone clip

1648
01:19:41,570 --> 01:19:38,970
calm to order call eight zero one seven

1649
01:19:44,090 --> 01:19:41,580
one nine two six eight zero that's eight

1650
01:19:46,730 --> 01:19:44,100
zero one seven one nine two six eight

1651
01:19:49,930 --> 01:19:46,740
zero or visit my phone clip com2 get

1652
01:19:55,189 --> 01:19:52,850
tired of searching for great talk radio

1653
01:20:15,200 --> 01:19:55,199
search no more it's good stuff

1654
01:20:19,399 --> 01:20:15,210
we are the gcn radio network let's

1655
01:20:21,530 --> 01:20:19,409
applaud Chris O'Brien for the best et

1656
01:20:23,090 --> 01:20:21,540
voice is good for something well you

1657
01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:23,100
know you said it I didn't I'm Jean

1658
01:20:27,500 --> 01:20:25,050
Steinberger in the para cast we've got

1659
01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:27,510
Chris O'Brien as the co-host Larry

1660
01:20:32,030 --> 01:20:29,850
Bryant is the guest okay so let's look

1661
01:20:34,070 --> 01:20:32,040
at the UFO feel in general trying to

1662
01:20:36,770 --> 01:20:34,080
figure out what's going on and we have a

1663
01:20:39,140 --> 01:20:36,780
situation of can't we all get along and

1664
01:20:43,129 --> 01:20:39,150
you've got so many interests in so many

1665
01:20:45,979 --> 01:20:43,139
competing elements of the UFO field how

1666
01:20:48,470 --> 01:20:45,989
do you sort things out I mean if someone

1667
01:20:51,020 --> 01:20:48,480
comes into the UFO investigative field

1668
01:20:52,550 --> 01:20:51,030
and they see what's happening they want

1669
01:20:53,930 --> 01:20:52,560
to quit right away at least a lot of

1670
01:20:56,990 --> 01:20:53,940
people do saying you know what this is

1671
01:20:58,280 --> 01:20:57,000
too much too much conflict so what do

1672
01:21:01,070 --> 01:20:58,290
you think about all this how do we

1673
01:21:03,830 --> 01:21:01,080
figure it out the conflict the gassing

1674
01:21:06,410 --> 01:21:03,840
the gamesmanship among researchers some

1675
01:21:08,570 --> 01:21:06,420
researchers find a peck case they love

1676
01:21:11,750 --> 01:21:08,580
to keep and they spend their whole

1677
01:21:14,390 --> 01:21:11,760
career nursing that one particular pet

1678
01:21:16,580 --> 01:21:14,400
case it and and resent anybody else

1679
01:21:19,010 --> 01:21:16,590
trying to get a handle on it this is

1680
01:21:22,160 --> 01:21:19,020
human nature my friend it's sort of like

1681
01:21:25,129 --> 01:21:22,170
religion in a way that you create an end

1682
01:21:27,709 --> 01:21:25,139
group and you make sure there it's

1683
01:21:30,530 --> 01:21:27,719
protected from any incursion from an out

1684
01:21:32,959 --> 01:21:30,540
group so it's just human nature at work

1685
01:21:37,310 --> 01:21:32,969
the field is always going to remain

1686
01:21:40,070 --> 01:21:37,320
controversial I would remind you of a

1687
01:21:42,649 --> 01:21:40,080
case where a younger investigator got

1688
01:21:46,189 --> 01:21:42,659
into the field he was an airline pilot

1689
01:21:49,280 --> 01:21:46,199
his name was Kent Jeffrey he decided

1690
01:21:52,850 --> 01:21:49,290
that the Roswell case crash foster case

1691
01:21:55,189 --> 01:21:52,860
was deserving of his attention he

1692
01:21:59,030 --> 01:21:55,199
mounted what he called the Roswell

1693
01:22:00,500 --> 01:21:59,040
initiative a widely circulated petition

1694
01:22:02,930 --> 01:22:00,510
among the citizenry

1695
01:22:06,290 --> 01:22:02,940
to have the couple that open up its

1696
01:22:09,500 --> 01:22:06,300
files on Roswell to to admit that

1697
01:22:12,799 --> 01:22:09,510
Roswell occurred and that artifacts were

1698
01:22:13,339 --> 01:22:12,809
retrieved and aliens were salmon and so

1699
01:22:15,830 --> 01:22:13,349
forth

1700
01:22:17,569 --> 01:22:15,840
well he got thousands of signatures I

1701
01:22:20,779 --> 01:22:17,579
don't think we're going to present this

1702
01:22:25,430 --> 01:22:20,789
as opposed to Congress or to some other

1703
01:22:28,490 --> 01:22:25,440
Authority and guess what he may be an

1704
01:22:31,819 --> 01:22:28,500
about-turn saying in effect well I was

1705
01:22:34,640 --> 01:22:31,829
wrong Roswell was just a series of

1706
01:22:38,629 --> 01:22:34,650
high-flying balloons experiment and fun

1707
01:22:41,149 --> 01:22:38,639
and by the Army Air Force and therefore

1708
01:22:46,100 --> 01:22:41,159
I'm going to drop the petition project

1709
01:22:48,049 --> 01:22:46,110
this is a dark moment in ufology and

1710
01:22:51,319 --> 01:22:48,059
we've recovered from it but it's

1711
01:22:54,140 --> 01:22:51,329
symptomatic of dilettante getting into

1712
01:22:56,870 --> 01:22:54,150
the field making a big splash and then

1713
01:23:00,080 --> 01:22:56,880
just walk off as if they just got and

1714
01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:00,090
just had a big bowel movement in public

1715
01:23:04,220 --> 01:23:02,130
and decided well that's is enough of

1716
01:23:05,870 --> 01:23:04,230
that and now I'll try something else

1717
01:23:07,549 --> 01:23:05,880
you know we have somebody we had a

1718
01:23:09,709 --> 01:23:07,559
couple of weeks ago on the show who has

1719
01:23:12,049 --> 01:23:09,719
this book coming out and a great

1720
01:23:13,640 --> 01:23:12,059
initiative as a whistleblower who can

1721
01:23:15,950 --> 01:23:13,650
tell you what's happening in Dulce New

1722
01:23:18,410 --> 01:23:15,960
Mexico two days after the show is

1723
01:23:20,569 --> 01:23:18,420
broadcast he quits the field abandons

1724
01:23:24,709 --> 01:23:20,579
everything but then he comes back to the

1725
01:23:30,290 --> 01:23:24,719
field two days later exactly he took a

1726
01:23:34,609 --> 01:23:30,300
laxative and came back yeah problems

1727
01:23:37,310 --> 01:23:34,619
over his marital discord and he

1728
01:23:39,470 --> 01:23:37,320
overreacted then and again you know and

1729
01:23:41,419 --> 01:23:39,480
he's probably been under a lot of stress

1730
01:23:45,339 --> 01:23:41,429
since he began this project especially

1731
01:23:47,720 --> 01:23:45,349
if he actually believes the colonel ex

1732
01:23:50,060 --> 01:23:47,730
whistleblower source that he'd been

1733
01:23:53,180 --> 01:23:50,070
cultivating for some months I guess and

1734
01:23:55,279 --> 01:23:53,190
he probably got he just couldn't handle

1735
01:23:58,399 --> 01:23:55,289
what what was that it was being dished

1736
01:24:00,200 --> 01:23:58,409
out to him from left and right and I

1737
01:24:02,839 --> 01:24:00,210
don't know him personally but I can

1738
01:24:05,020 --> 01:24:02,849
empathize with the fact that then he got

1739
01:24:07,700 --> 01:24:05,030
in the head over his head and

1740
01:24:10,450 --> 01:24:07,710
overreacted and now he's back in again

1741
01:24:13,160 --> 01:24:10,460
he he's making his book available as a

1742
01:24:15,830 --> 01:24:13,170
electronic book on his website which is

1743
01:24:18,890 --> 01:24:15,840
fine you know if his book holds up

1744
01:24:20,680 --> 01:24:18,900
that's fine too if it just fades away as

1745
01:24:23,779 --> 01:24:20,690
any number of other

1746
01:24:26,660 --> 01:24:23,789
tell-all books have a way of doing in

1747
01:24:28,729 --> 01:24:26,670
this field and then you know we have to

1748
01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:28,739
accept that to move along because that's

1749
01:24:33,799 --> 01:24:31,010
what the fields are we have a most

1750
01:24:36,950 --> 01:24:33,809
Antarctic discipline

1751
01:24:39,379 --> 01:24:36,960
field we've had on any subject matter in

1752
01:24:41,299 --> 01:24:39,389
the world that anybody can declare

1753
01:24:44,270 --> 01:24:41,309
himself to be an expert in this field

1754
01:24:46,580 --> 01:24:44,280
you don't need any credentials you don't

1755
01:24:49,640 --> 01:24:46,590
need any degrees in science or

1756
01:24:51,950 --> 01:24:49,650
philosophy field or anything you just

1757
01:24:54,350 --> 01:24:51,960
say I'm a reason I'm the UFO researcher

1758
01:24:57,160 --> 01:24:54,360
and blam yeah there you are you can

1759
01:24:59,419 --> 01:24:57,170
carve out whatever image you want to do

1760
01:25:01,580 --> 01:24:59,429
you don't have to go to a degree mill

1761
01:25:03,770 --> 01:25:01,590
where they print up the degree and say

1762
01:25:06,890 --> 01:25:03,780
Larry Bryan gene Steinberg Chris O'Brien

1763
01:25:09,169 --> 01:25:06,900
you have multiple PhDs in ufology

1764
01:25:11,660 --> 01:25:09,179
you just say I'm a ufologist no one

1765
01:25:14,509 --> 01:25:11,670
gives an examination for state licensing

1766
01:25:16,220 --> 01:25:14,519
board or a federal licensing board and I

1767
01:25:18,410 --> 01:25:16,230
can point out one of the persons you've

1768
01:25:21,169 --> 01:25:18,420
mentioned earlier in your conversation

1769
01:25:23,270 --> 01:25:21,179
he used to go around calling himself PhD

1770
01:25:25,640 --> 01:25:23,280
and he seems not to do that anymore and

1771
01:25:27,529 --> 01:25:25,650
it could be somebody did a little

1772
01:25:29,569 --> 01:25:27,539
investigation and found that he never

1773
01:25:33,859 --> 01:25:29,579
went before one of these boards where

1774
01:25:36,970 --> 01:25:33,869
where academics you know treat you to an

1775
01:25:40,189 --> 01:25:36,980
exam and maybe never really produced a

1776
01:25:43,729 --> 01:25:40,199
certified dissertation in any case as

1777
01:25:45,979 --> 01:25:43,739
you say people can can overextend and in

1778
01:25:48,319 --> 01:25:45,989
their credentials they can overextend in

1779
01:25:51,500 --> 01:25:48,329
their emotional attachment to the field

1780
01:25:55,970 --> 01:25:51,510
that's just part and parcel of second

1781
01:25:57,919 --> 01:25:55,980
Antarctic enquiry we all say there's a

1782
01:25:59,990 --> 01:25:57,929
lot of little petty thief comes out

1783
01:26:02,750 --> 01:26:00,000
there in this field and boy if you don't

1784
01:26:05,149 --> 01:26:02,760
agree with sort of named investigators

1785
01:26:07,220 --> 01:26:05,159
and researchers you know a list types

1786
01:26:09,680 --> 01:26:07,230
out there if you don't totally by lock

1787
01:26:10,939 --> 01:26:09,690
stock and barrel their theories then you

1788
01:26:11,310 --> 01:26:10,949
know you're the enemy you're part of the

1789
01:26:14,910 --> 01:26:11,320
problem

1790
01:26:16,259 --> 01:26:14,920
and I have several researcher

1791
01:26:19,169 --> 01:26:16,269
investigator friends that have been

1792
01:26:22,200 --> 01:26:19,179
accused by people as being government

1793
01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:22,210
operatives or being agent provocateur

1794
01:26:27,029 --> 01:26:24,730
types and and that sort of thing and in

1795
01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:27,039
a I really feel for the younger

1796
01:26:32,700 --> 01:26:30,010
generation coming up interested in this

1797
01:26:34,410 --> 01:26:32,710
field you know I see the younger

1798
01:26:36,569 --> 01:26:34,420
generation getting involved in this

1799
01:26:39,089 --> 01:26:36,579
field even superficially and immediately

1800
01:26:41,609 --> 01:26:39,099
they will see the fractious infighting

1801
01:26:43,740 --> 01:26:41,619
and I think that's enough to to really

1802
01:26:45,660 --> 01:26:43,750
turn somebody off from really good I

1803
01:26:47,970 --> 01:26:45,670
mean in and getting involved someone

1804
01:26:50,549 --> 01:26:47,980
like a John Greenwald who I have a

1805
01:26:52,350 --> 01:26:50,559
tremendous respect for and I think I'm

1806
01:26:53,850 --> 01:26:52,360
sure Larry does as well with the the

1807
01:26:56,430 --> 01:26:53,860
kind of quality of work that he's done

1808
01:26:59,100 --> 01:26:56,440
but this is going to be a continuing

1809
01:27:02,029 --> 01:26:59,110
problem and I don't I don't see any any

1810
01:27:04,950 --> 01:27:02,039
real solution to it I really feel for

1811
01:27:06,839 --> 01:27:04,960
folks and you know up and coming from

1812
01:27:09,930 --> 01:27:06,849
the younger generation who have an

1813
01:27:11,399 --> 01:27:09,940
interest in in this field but it's not

1814
01:27:12,899 --> 01:27:11,409
going to take them long to figure out

1815
01:27:16,620 --> 01:27:12,909
that they're getting into

1816
01:27:19,350 --> 01:27:16,630
- a real cesspool of agenda and you know

1817
01:27:22,229 --> 01:27:19,360
personal opinion and it would be enough

1818
01:27:24,299 --> 01:27:22,239
to turn somebody off I think there's a

1819
01:27:26,250 --> 01:27:24,309
few examples of people that have

1820
01:27:27,839 --> 01:27:26,260
shouldered on and and really done a

1821
01:27:29,339 --> 01:27:27,849
yeoman's job and they feel like a John

1822
01:27:31,830 --> 01:27:29,349
Greenwald who I have tremendous respect

1823
01:27:34,950 --> 01:27:31,840
for and I'm sure Larry does as well

1824
01:27:36,569 --> 01:27:34,960
but this is a problem and until we

1825
01:27:38,069 --> 01:27:36,579
really come to grips with it I think

1826
01:27:40,529 --> 01:27:38,079
that the speed the field will be

1827
01:27:42,930 --> 01:27:40,539
spinning its wheels and I think we

1828
01:27:44,609 --> 01:27:42,940
should all kind of enroll in the Rodney

1829
01:27:47,399 --> 01:27:44,619
King school of you know can't we all

1830
01:27:49,680 --> 01:27:47,409
just get along here you know agree to

1831
01:27:51,660 --> 01:27:49,690
disagree but you know respect each

1832
01:27:53,759 --> 01:27:51,670
others opinions instead of you know

1833
01:27:55,890 --> 01:27:53,769
denigrating each other it just makes the

1834
01:27:58,229 --> 01:27:55,900
field look you know that much less

1835
01:27:59,459 --> 01:27:58,239
legitimate I guess in the eyes of the

1836
01:28:02,040 --> 01:27:59,469
government in the eyes of signed the

1837
01:28:04,799 --> 01:28:02,050
scientific community what have you I'm

1838
01:28:06,589 --> 01:28:04,809
off my soapbox now gene alright well I

1839
01:28:08,759 --> 01:28:06,599
don't know how we're gonna get along if

1840
01:28:10,379 --> 01:28:08,769
everybody has a different point of view

1841
01:28:12,720 --> 01:28:10,389
as to what's really going on in this

1842
01:28:16,379 --> 01:28:12,730
field I mean you have people say I met

1843
01:28:19,410 --> 01:28:16,389
et orici abducted me and they told me

1844
01:28:21,470 --> 01:28:19,420
that I am the sole spokesperson for the

1845
01:28:23,950 --> 01:28:21,480
et interests on the planet Earth

1846
01:28:25,360 --> 01:28:23,960
therefore I am the only

1847
01:28:27,160 --> 01:28:25,370
out there I mean we have somebody out

1848
01:28:29,020 --> 01:28:27,170
there we're not going to mention the

1849
01:28:30,850 --> 01:28:29,030
name with a person he represents he

1850
01:28:34,450 --> 01:28:30,860
claims to be the American representative

1851
01:28:36,459 --> 01:28:34,460
of a specific UFO contactee and he says

1852
01:28:39,100 --> 01:28:36,469
that's the only UFO contactee on the

1853
01:28:41,860 --> 01:28:39,110
planet everybody else is a pretender

1854
01:28:43,510 --> 01:28:41,870
everybody else is a fake and by the way

1855
01:28:46,360 --> 01:28:43,520
something that isn't the fake is the

1856
01:28:49,870 --> 01:28:46,370
fact that we have forms for America's

1857
01:28:51,610 --> 01:28:49,880
calm for America's calm we know

1858
01:28:54,250 --> 01:28:51,620
neighbors you're going to have things to

1859
01:28:56,680 --> 01:28:54,260
say about what you heard from me from

1860
01:28:57,970 --> 01:28:56,690
Chris O'Brien from Larry Bryant and by

1861
01:29:00,130 --> 01:28:57,980
the way if you want to know more the

1862
01:29:02,470 --> 01:29:00,140
things Larry does if you go to the para

1863
01:29:04,570 --> 01:29:02,480
cast comm and click on his name you get

1864
01:29:06,670 --> 01:29:04,580
to his blog and you click on the name of

1865
01:29:08,050 --> 01:29:06,680
his book you can go and order a copy

1866
01:29:09,670 --> 01:29:08,060
it's still available we'll ask about

1867
01:29:11,920 --> 01:29:09,680
that book a little bit later on I also

1868
01:29:13,780 --> 01:29:11,930
have a special request if you'd like to

1869
01:29:15,120 --> 01:29:13,790
become part of the power cast team we're

1870
01:29:17,229 --> 01:29:15,130
looking for sales and marketing

1871
01:29:18,550 --> 01:29:17,239
specialists if you have that kind of

1872
01:29:21,340 --> 01:29:18,560
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1876
01:29:34,450 --> 01:29:32,090
so our guest this week is Larry W Bryant

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the co-host who has done lots of UFO

1878
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research written his own books as Chris

1879
01:29:40,540 --> 01:29:38,840
O'Brien in his best et voice he's

1880
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getting us set for this right now

1881
01:29:46,610 --> 01:29:42,800
I'm gene Steinberg you're in the para

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1883
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1888
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1906
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gardeners we can all relate what do you

1907
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do with all of the excess food that you

1908
01:30:58,550 --> 01:30:56,790
grow freezing or canning may have been

1909
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the process you've used but the good

1910
01:31:02,090 --> 01:31:00,420
folks at xcalibur dehydrator have a

1911
01:31:04,040 --> 01:31:02,100
healthy alternative to preserve the

1912
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fruits of your labor the excalibur

1913
01:31:07,370 --> 01:31:05,580
dehydrator will help you preserve your

1914
01:31:08,900 --> 01:31:07,380
fruits and vegetables quickly and easily

1915
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so you don't have to worry about

1916
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premature spoiling you can also use your

1917
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X color of a dehydrator year-round to

1918
01:31:17,030 --> 01:31:15,090
make delicious jerky and the best part

1919
01:31:18,740 --> 01:31:17,040
the food you dehydrate are free from

1920
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excess additives salt and preservatives

1921
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and that's something we can all do

1922
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without to learn more and to order your

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very own excalibur dehydrator visit

1924
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drying 1 2 3 comm and see how the

1925
01:31:31,880 --> 01:31:29,910
xcalibur dehydrator can help you

1926
01:31:34,520 --> 01:31:31,890
preserve your favorite foods mention

1927
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coupon code GC in and receive a free

1928
01:31:41,630 --> 01:31:36,719
book on how to preserve your foods again

1929
01:31:44,150 --> 01:31:41,640
that's dr y ing 1 2 3 comm drying 1 2 3

1930
01:31:46,760 --> 01:31:44,160
calm or call one eight hundred eight

1931
01:31:48,800 --> 01:31:46,770
seven five four two five four that's one

1932
01:31:51,740 --> 01:31:48,810
eight hundred eighty seven five four two

1933
01:31:54,080 --> 01:31:51,750
five for today hi i'm here talking with

1934
01:31:55,820 --> 01:31:54,090
dawn whisking of heart drop calm I

1935
01:31:58,340 --> 01:31:55,830
understand that you change the name of

1936
01:31:59,300 --> 01:31:58,350
your product on yes we did it's now

1937
01:32:00,620 --> 01:31:59,310
extended bite

1938
01:32:03,169 --> 01:32:00,630
meaning to extend

1939
01:32:05,149 --> 01:32:03,179
life Wow extend your life everybody

1940
01:32:07,280 --> 01:32:05,159
wants to extend their life how's it made

1941
01:32:09,260 --> 01:32:07,290
dawn well extend abide is made from

1942
01:32:10,129 --> 01:32:09,270
herbs gathered from many different parts

1943
01:32:12,260 --> 01:32:10,139
of the world

1944
01:32:14,450 --> 01:32:12,270
we chose seven of the heart and health

1945
01:32:17,000 --> 01:32:14,460
related herbs no one to improve your

1946
01:32:19,490 --> 01:32:17,010
health your heart drops have always kept

1947
01:32:21,200 --> 01:32:19,500
me from feeling sick or rundown Don will

1948
01:32:23,629 --> 01:32:21,210
extend if I continued to do the same

1949
01:32:25,879 --> 01:32:23,639
thing for me yes it will all we changed

1950
01:32:27,439 --> 01:32:25,889
was the name I'm here because at 42 I

1951
01:32:29,450 --> 01:32:27,449
had a heart attack and the garlic

1952
01:32:31,010 --> 01:32:29,460
cayenne drops gave me back my life we

1953
01:32:32,689 --> 01:32:31,020
have been talking with Don whisking

1954
01:32:34,700 --> 01:32:32,699
about his exciting new product called

1955
01:32:37,399 --> 01:32:34,710
extent of it-- to get your extent of

1956
01:32:39,950 --> 01:32:37,409
it-- call one eight seven seven nine two

1957
01:32:43,010 --> 01:32:39,960
eight eight eight two two that's one

1958
01:32:46,280 --> 01:32:43,020
eight seven seven nine to 888 twenty-two

1959
01:32:51,740 --> 01:32:46,290
or visit his website at heart drop com

1960
01:32:53,570 --> 01:32:51,750
that's har t dr ROP dot-com we all know

1961
01:32:55,070 --> 01:32:53,580
that berkey water purification systems

1962
01:32:56,959 --> 01:32:55,080
are the most trusted name in water

1963
01:32:58,790 --> 01:32:56,969
filtration as an authorized Berkey

1964
01:33:00,800 --> 01:32:58,800
dealer for over five years and serving

1965
01:33:02,959 --> 01:33:00,810
thousands of satisfied customers the

1966
01:33:04,910 --> 01:33:02,969
Berkey guy offers amazing specials for

1967
01:33:06,590 --> 01:33:04,920
berkey water filtration systems the

1968
01:33:08,510 --> 01:33:06,600
murky light systems include a set of

1969
01:33:10,430 --> 01:33:08,520
self-sterilizing INRI cleanable black

1970
01:33:12,800 --> 01:33:10,440
purification elements that purify water

1971
01:33:14,959 --> 01:33:12,810
by removing chlorine pathogenic bacteria

1972
01:33:17,090 --> 01:33:14,969
cysts and parasites to non detectable

1973
01:33:19,370 --> 01:33:17,100
levels and remove harmful chemicals such

1974
01:33:21,260 --> 01:33:19,380
as herbicides and pesticides order the

1975
01:33:23,060 --> 01:33:21,270
Berkey light system today complete with

1976
01:33:24,950 --> 01:33:23,070
two black per key elements for only two

1977
01:33:26,660 --> 01:33:24,960
hundred and nine dollars and the burka

1978
01:33:28,850 --> 01:33:26,670
guide will include three sport murky

1979
01:33:29,689 --> 01:33:28,860
water bottles and ship everything to you

1980
01:33:31,760 --> 01:33:29,699
free of charge

1981
01:33:33,740 --> 01:33:31,770
that's right three sport brookie water

1982
01:33:36,229 --> 01:33:33,750
bottles and free shipping an eighty

1983
01:33:38,060 --> 01:33:36,239
seven dollar value yours free called the

1984
01:33:40,040 --> 01:33:38,070
Berkey guy at one eight seventy seven

1985
01:33:42,649 --> 01:33:40,050
eight eight six three six five three

1986
01:33:45,350 --> 01:33:42,659
bets one eight seven seven eight eight

1987
01:33:48,290 --> 01:33:45,360
six three six five three or order online

1988
01:33:52,459 --> 01:33:48,300
at Gober Keep Calm that's Gober Keep

1989
01:33:55,180 --> 01:33:52,469
Calm today the gcn radio network

1990
01:34:00,720 --> 01:33:55,190
providing the world with hard-hitting

1991
01:34:03,370 --> 01:34:00,730
talk radio vcn

1992
01:34:05,410 --> 01:34:03,380
this is Philip rod no you're listening

1993
01:34:08,050 --> 01:34:05,420
to paragraphs one of the most

1994
01:34:08,729 --> 01:34:08,060
informative shows out there so listen

1995
01:34:12,550 --> 01:34:08,739
closely

1996
01:34:14,290 --> 01:34:12,560
that Nabors is a very old eighty okay

1997
01:34:17,410 --> 01:34:14,300
it's kind of an old and doddering eighty

1998
01:34:19,959 --> 01:34:17,420
four hundred years old from Zeta

1999
01:34:22,120 --> 01:34:19,969
Reticuli is that right Chris O'Brien yes

2000
01:34:23,709 --> 01:34:22,130
G well spare me

2001
01:34:25,810 --> 01:34:23,719
Larry Brian's the guest I'm Jean

2002
01:34:28,840 --> 01:34:25,820
Steinberg you're in the power cast so

2003
01:34:30,700 --> 01:34:28,850
now of course we look at all this here

2004
01:34:33,150 --> 01:34:30,710
and we have the people who were looking

2005
01:34:35,350 --> 01:34:33,160
for the fame and the fortune Larry and

2006
01:34:37,510 --> 01:34:35,360
what do we do to toss them out of the

2007
01:34:40,479 --> 01:34:37,520
field get rid of them so people coming

2008
01:34:42,970 --> 01:34:40,489
into this mess don't consistently find

2009
01:34:44,800 --> 01:34:42,980
themselves just completely confuse over

2010
01:34:47,560 --> 01:34:44,810
what's going on it's not a hopeless

2011
01:34:49,840 --> 01:34:47,570
situation there are some books being

2012
01:34:52,660 --> 01:34:49,850
written that are very worthwhile for

2013
01:34:55,390 --> 01:34:52,670
newcomers to take a look at as long as

2014
01:34:57,660 --> 01:34:55,400
there's youthful sightings UFO

2015
01:35:01,350 --> 01:34:57,670
encounters there's always going to be a

2016
01:35:06,479 --> 01:35:01,360
ample supply of literature magazines

2017
01:35:09,760 --> 01:35:06,489
journals with newsletters books lectures

2018
01:35:12,580 --> 01:35:09,770
from experts that convened and so forth

2019
01:35:16,270 --> 01:35:12,590
this is a subculture we're dealing with

2020
01:35:19,650 --> 01:35:16,280
and pun involved elements of the human

2021
01:35:23,020 --> 01:35:19,660
nature for example in our earlier

2022
01:35:26,680 --> 01:35:23,030
discussion here you you mentioned the

2023
01:35:28,570 --> 01:35:26,690
inability of people to coalesce and have

2024
01:35:33,130 --> 01:35:28,580
a unified approach to the subject

2025
01:35:36,400 --> 01:35:33,140
there's a human nature aspect called not

2026
01:35:40,090 --> 01:35:36,410
invented here and you heard that a

2027
01:35:42,490 --> 01:35:40,100
phrase used and when I was employed and

2028
01:35:45,760 --> 01:35:42,500
it pertains to for example a project

2029
01:35:48,220 --> 01:35:45,770
that some group and another division of

2030
01:35:51,340 --> 01:35:48,230
the organization might come up with and

2031
01:35:54,400 --> 01:35:51,350
it gets resistance from the loop across

2032
01:35:56,680 --> 01:35:54,410
the hall who might say well you know it

2033
01:35:59,680 --> 01:35:56,690
sounds okay but since we didn't invent

2034
01:36:02,350 --> 01:35:59,690
it it's probably not going to work or

2035
01:36:04,720 --> 01:36:02,360
words to that effect is you know not

2036
01:36:08,200 --> 01:36:04,730
invented here syndrome is human nature

2037
01:36:10,750 --> 01:36:08,210
and this is what you get with people who

2038
01:36:12,780 --> 01:36:10,760
that's honor to a certain case or to a

2039
01:36:14,050 --> 01:36:12,790
certain approach and they resent

2040
01:36:17,650 --> 01:36:14,060
outsiders

2041
01:36:19,300 --> 01:36:17,660
from coming in you know it just is

2042
01:36:22,480 --> 01:36:19,310
something we have to deal with because

2043
01:36:25,420 --> 01:36:22,490
we're all human and it'd be nice to have

2044
01:36:29,560 --> 01:36:25,430
a civil approach to the subject but

2045
01:36:32,620 --> 01:36:29,570
again because of it if it's of its

2046
01:36:35,350 --> 01:36:32,630
amorphous structure you thority

2047
01:36:37,570 --> 01:36:35,360
sometimes call you fool G because some

2048
01:36:40,000 --> 01:36:37,580
people think we're fools to even stay as

2049
01:36:41,920 --> 01:36:40,010
long as we have in this subject that

2050
01:36:45,520 --> 01:36:41,930
came from John teal by the way I think

2051
01:36:48,220 --> 01:36:45,530
he claimed the term you fuller G you

2052
01:36:50,940 --> 01:36:48,230
know we may be foolish up to a point but

2053
01:36:54,160 --> 01:36:50,950
that one oh you're really gaining any

2054
01:36:56,020 --> 01:36:54,170
personal satisfaction any progress on

2055
01:36:59,860 --> 01:36:56,030
this and then you make your decision

2056
01:37:01,660 --> 01:36:59,870
that's all it has to be I'd rather be a

2057
01:37:05,640 --> 01:37:01,670
little bit foolish than be totally in

2058
01:37:08,530 --> 01:37:05,650
denial good point

2059
01:37:12,370 --> 01:37:08,540
well Larry one of the organizations that

2060
01:37:14,680 --> 01:37:12,380
you were I think didn't you help start

2061
01:37:17,020 --> 01:37:14,690
citizens against UFOs sequency or I know

2062
01:37:19,150 --> 01:37:17,030
you were involved with cause for for a

2063
01:37:20,620 --> 01:37:19,160
number of years how many of you tell us

2064
01:37:23,110 --> 01:37:20,630
a little bit about about that

2065
01:37:25,120 --> 01:37:23,120
organization and the history of it and

2066
01:37:27,820 --> 01:37:25,130
and what you feel are the successes of

2067
01:37:30,070 --> 01:37:27,830
that because it does appear to many

2068
01:37:33,340 --> 01:37:30,080
people like myself as a as a real

2069
01:37:35,290 --> 01:37:33,350
inspiration for the the process of

2070
01:37:37,630 --> 01:37:35,300
getting some sort of information from

2071
01:37:40,270 --> 01:37:37,640
the government from the military yes I

2072
01:37:45,700 --> 01:37:40,280
was a founding member of that group

2073
01:37:49,840 --> 01:37:45,710
which never became more than a it's now

2074
01:37:52,810 --> 01:37:49,850
whether down two people still operative

2075
01:37:55,600 --> 01:37:52,820
member of citizens against UFO secrecy

2076
01:38:01,270 --> 01:37:55,610
which one it started back in in the late

2077
01:38:04,360 --> 01:38:01,280
70s it had about at its heyday about 150

2078
01:38:09,250 --> 01:38:04,370
members and among the other founders

2079
01:38:12,520 --> 01:38:09,260
besides me and turning Peter Gersten of

2080
01:38:16,480 --> 01:38:12,530
New York who now lives in Sedona Arizona

2081
01:38:20,020 --> 01:38:16,490
Brad sparks Larry Fossett of New England

2082
01:38:22,240 --> 01:38:20,030
Stanton Friedman you know maybe two or

2083
01:38:25,660 --> 01:38:22,250
three more other people and

2084
01:38:27,790 --> 01:38:25,670
in the field decided that after the

2085
01:38:31,210 --> 01:38:27,800
ground saucer watch Freedom of

2086
01:38:36,880 --> 01:38:31,220
Information lawsuit freed up some CIA

2087
01:38:41,350 --> 01:38:36,890
material on UFO reports this group

2088
01:38:45,600 --> 01:38:41,360
decided that we should unify our anti

2089
01:38:48,250 --> 01:38:45,610
UFO secrecy efforts and form this little

2090
01:38:50,920 --> 01:38:48,260
research and activism group called

2091
01:38:53,610 --> 01:38:50,930
citizens against UFO secrecy which is

2092
01:38:57,520 --> 01:38:53,620
now dormant except for me

2093
01:39:02,200 --> 01:38:57,530
here in Alexandria Virginia which

2094
01:39:04,780 --> 01:39:02,210
occasionally site my membership as a

2095
01:39:09,040 --> 01:39:04,790
director of the Washington DC office of

2096
01:39:11,940 --> 01:39:09,050
cause and I do that too to lend some

2097
01:39:16,290 --> 01:39:11,950
authority to my continued efforts to

2098
01:39:20,230 --> 01:39:16,300
persuade federal agencies to free up

2099
01:39:23,130 --> 01:39:20,240
heretofore unreleased material one of

2100
01:39:27,280 --> 01:39:23,140
the highlights of my own work in the

2101
01:39:32,410 --> 01:39:27,290
organization dates back to 1983 when

2102
01:39:37,240 --> 01:39:32,420
I've filed a lawsuit basically called a

2103
01:39:40,660 --> 01:39:37,250
petition for writ of habeas corpus Extra

2104
01:39:43,330 --> 01:39:40,670
Terrestrial it was filed in US District

2105
01:39:47,380 --> 01:39:43,340
Court for the District of Columbia it

2106
01:39:51,910 --> 01:39:47,390
was a petition to have the judge order

2107
01:39:54,460 --> 01:39:51,920
the US Air Force to produce the bodies

2108
01:39:57,970 --> 01:39:54,470
that were recovered from any crashed

2109
01:40:05,950 --> 01:39:57,980
saucer case and I use mine as evidence

2110
01:40:08,920 --> 01:40:05,960
for the petition the a synopsis of cases

2111
01:40:11,830 --> 01:40:08,930
from Leonard Stringfield crash sauce or

2112
01:40:14,440 --> 01:40:11,840
research I asked when a Leonard by

2113
01:40:17,770 --> 01:40:14,450
telephone I said please and filed this

2114
01:40:22,240 --> 01:40:17,780
lawsuit but I need some substance some

2115
01:40:24,700 --> 01:40:22,250
evidence to present to the judge and so

2116
01:40:27,070 --> 01:40:24,710
he did send me some cases a summary

2117
01:40:30,400 --> 01:40:27,080
cases I think they were six summarized

2118
01:40:34,750 --> 01:40:30,410
as being at the top of his list of

2119
01:40:36,100 --> 01:40:34,760
credible cases so I went into court and

2120
01:40:40,450 --> 01:40:36,110
the the court

2121
01:40:42,459 --> 01:40:40,460
did grant me a hearing and by the way

2122
01:40:44,410 --> 01:40:42,469
the case was filed through the mail I

2123
01:40:46,689 --> 01:40:44,420
never had to go down to the clerk's

2124
01:40:49,600 --> 01:40:46,699
office and and stand there and fill out

2125
01:40:52,300 --> 01:40:49,610
a bunch of flaws I just found some

2126
01:40:55,450 --> 01:40:52,310
format somewhere and decided well I'll

2127
01:40:57,910 --> 01:40:55,460
try it and I have no expectation that

2128
01:41:02,520 --> 01:40:57,920
this thing would even get accepted well

2129
01:41:06,760 --> 01:41:02,530
it did get accepted and the the record

2130
01:41:10,209 --> 01:41:06,770
is visible for anybody to to research

2131
01:41:14,910 --> 01:41:10,219
the actual petition itself is now

2132
01:41:18,340 --> 01:41:14,920
published in the book that that the late

2133
01:41:21,070 --> 01:41:18,350
Colonel Wendell Stevens Air Force

2134
01:41:23,290 --> 01:41:21,080
retired colonel he just died this year

2135
01:41:26,250 --> 01:41:23,300
and he published a book in which he

2136
01:41:29,770 --> 01:41:26,260
included my petition as an appendix in

2137
01:41:34,030 --> 01:41:29,780
any case the judge listened to both

2138
01:41:36,729 --> 01:41:34,040
sides I was sitting there and what they

2139
01:41:41,020 --> 01:41:36,739
call a pro se status with no legal

2140
01:41:44,410 --> 01:41:41,030
attorney at my side the Air Force

2141
01:41:47,560 --> 01:41:44,420
brought in a couple of uniformed to Jag

2142
01:41:50,919 --> 01:41:47,570
officers Judge Advocate General people

2143
01:41:54,100 --> 01:41:50,929
from the Pentagon and the US attorney

2144
01:41:56,709 --> 01:41:54,110
had a representative there to plead the

2145
01:42:00,790 --> 01:41:56,719
government's case that this particular

2146
01:42:04,540 --> 01:42:00,800
petition should be Syst the judge

2147
01:42:08,740 --> 01:42:04,550
listened to me and I said that was

2148
01:42:09,729 --> 01:42:08,750
basically performing a reverse citizen's

2149
01:42:13,479 --> 01:42:09,739
arrest

2150
01:42:14,379 --> 01:42:13,489
I was performing a request for this

2151
01:42:16,410 --> 01:42:14,389
arrest

2152
01:42:19,810 --> 01:42:16,420
in other words these bodies that

2153
01:42:22,600 --> 01:42:19,820
supposedly were retrieved from crash

2154
01:42:23,260 --> 01:42:22,610
saucers were taken away without a

2155
01:42:26,919 --> 01:42:23,270
warrant

2156
01:42:29,080 --> 01:42:26,929
what they were stolen and that this was

2157
01:42:31,840 --> 01:42:29,090
not proper behavior on the part of

2158
01:42:34,660 --> 01:42:31,850
official government interest and the

2159
01:42:37,450 --> 01:42:34,670
judge client Lee is the other person

2160
01:42:39,399 --> 01:42:37,460
probably in his late 80s I said this is

2161
01:42:42,820 --> 01:42:39,409
the smoking gun your honor and I held up

2162
01:42:46,149 --> 01:42:42,830
in my hand the six cases from Leonard

2163
01:42:48,250 --> 01:42:46,159
Stringfield research and he said well Mr

2164
01:42:49,680 --> 01:42:48,260
Bryan do you have anything besides smoke

2165
01:42:51,240 --> 01:42:49,690
and I'm sure

2166
01:42:54,300 --> 01:42:51,250
there was a lot of smoking going on

2167
01:43:00,479 --> 01:42:54,310
behind me there's quite a few media

2168
01:43:02,610 --> 01:43:00,489
people there and essentially I explained

2169
01:43:04,709 --> 01:43:02,620
to the judge that I had upon my arrival

2170
01:43:06,900 --> 01:43:04,719
at the courtroom had just been handed

2171
01:43:09,120 --> 01:43:06,910
the government's motion for dismissal

2172
01:43:10,260 --> 01:43:09,130
and I hadn't had a chance to read it and

2173
01:43:12,840 --> 01:43:10,270
he said whether you would you like to

2174
01:43:16,260 --> 01:43:12,850
read it now so i sat there going through

2175
01:43:19,290 --> 01:43:16,270
several pages the room quiet as if it

2176
01:43:22,650 --> 01:43:19,300
were a church chaplain a very patient

2177
01:43:25,620 --> 01:43:22,660
judge I might add I was totally

2178
01:43:29,790 --> 01:43:25,630
surprised he treated me with great

2179
01:43:31,920 --> 01:43:29,800
gentility with solicitation he let me

2180
01:43:34,050 --> 01:43:31,930
read through it I guess I spent five

2181
01:43:37,680 --> 01:43:34,060
minutes with my head bowed down over

2182
01:43:40,650 --> 01:43:37,690
that paper and I finally as a rose from

2183
01:43:42,780 --> 01:43:40,660
my seat as a judge it it seems that the

2184
01:43:45,390 --> 01:43:42,790
the government here is saying I do not

2185
01:43:49,950 --> 01:43:45,400
have standing to bring this lawsuit and

2186
01:43:53,100 --> 01:43:49,960
that I have no case to pursue and he

2187
01:43:56,010 --> 01:43:53,110
said well you know that's exactly right

2188
01:43:58,020 --> 01:43:56,020
or something like that he's and he did

2189
01:44:01,380 --> 01:43:58,030
issue a written opinion and said that

2190
01:44:04,530 --> 01:44:01,390
technically speaking he had no

2191
01:44:07,830 --> 01:44:04,540
jurisdiction to to actually try the case

2192
01:44:11,459 --> 01:44:07,840
no idea how to bring in the relatives of

2193
01:44:14,430 --> 01:44:11,469
the aliens you haven't shown me where

2194
01:44:16,560 --> 01:44:14,440
the bodies are not showing me evidence

2195
01:44:18,570 --> 01:44:16,570
that you represent the bodies so

2196
01:44:21,450 --> 01:44:18,580
therefore I have no recourse but to

2197
01:44:23,970 --> 01:44:21,460
dismiss the case you know let's split

2198
01:44:25,590 --> 01:44:23,980
for the next segment ago Larry Bryan

2199
01:44:27,510 --> 01:44:25,600
joining us this week we're talking about

2200
01:44:29,820 --> 01:44:27,520
one of his early petitions to recover

2201
01:44:31,860 --> 01:44:29,830
information about alleged UFO bodies

2202
01:44:36,750 --> 01:44:31,870
Chris O'Brien's the co-host I'm gene

2203
01:44:42,330 --> 01:44:39,649
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2217
01:45:12,569 --> 01:45:11,139
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2218
01:45:14,399 --> 01:45:12,579
have you ever wondered why banks

2219
01:45:16,139 --> 01:45:14,409
stockbrokers investment advisors won't

2220
01:45:18,509 --> 01:45:16,149
talk about gold IRAs they've been

2221
01:45:20,219 --> 01:45:18,519
available since 1986 yet the financial

2222
01:45:21,929 --> 01:45:20,229
industry won't recognize the value of

2223
01:45:23,879 --> 01:45:21,939
gold for your retirement gold has

2224
01:45:25,770 --> 01:45:23,889
outperformed paper investments yet no

2225
01:45:38,449 --> 01:45:25,780
word about IRAs if you would like to

2226
01:45:38,459 --> 01:46:03,090
806-853-9949

2227
01:46:07,420 --> 01:46:05,410
straight-and-narrow Chris O'Brien our

2228
01:46:08,320 --> 01:46:07,430
co-host doing it without any

2229
01:46:10,120 --> 01:46:08,330
embellishment

2230
01:46:12,220 --> 01:46:10,130
Larry Bryan joining us I'm gene

2231
01:46:13,630 --> 01:46:12,230
Steinberger in the para cast so

2232
01:46:16,240 --> 01:46:13,640
basically the longest short of it is

2233
01:46:19,900 --> 01:46:16,250
Larry that the judge concluded you had

2234
01:46:22,930 --> 01:46:19,910
no standing to bring a case to demand

2235
01:46:25,270 --> 01:46:22,940
that they deliver the bodies of ET so

2236
01:46:26,860 --> 01:46:25,280
who has standing who can do it if there

2237
01:46:29,440 --> 01:46:26,870
are such bodies would it be the

2238
01:46:31,570 --> 01:46:29,450
relatives of ET or what well you know

2239
01:46:33,010 --> 01:46:31,580
I've had and I had those relatives in

2240
01:46:38,530 --> 01:46:33,020
hand I'd have brought them right in that

2241
01:46:42,790 --> 01:46:38,540
courtroom that's per day I'm sure he he

2242
01:46:45,340 --> 01:46:42,800
had no real choice and as I said I had

2243
01:46:47,620 --> 01:46:45,350
no expectation that case was good even

2244
01:46:51,310 --> 01:46:47,630
into the filing stage much less get a

2245
01:46:55,620 --> 01:46:51,320
hearing I'm just made even today as I

2246
01:46:58,480 --> 01:46:55,630
think about it because it engendered

2247
01:47:02,200 --> 01:46:58,490
worldwide publicity I got calls from

2248
01:47:05,260 --> 01:47:02,210
Japan from Europe from all over the

2249
01:47:07,990 --> 01:47:05,270
national Bar Association the American

2250
01:47:11,620 --> 01:47:08,000
Bar Association ran a story about it in

2251
01:47:14,260 --> 01:47:11,630
their journal the local papers in

2252
01:47:19,110 --> 01:47:14,270
Washington Post The Washington Times the

2253
01:47:22,330 --> 01:47:19,120
Alexandria does that these local papers

2254
01:47:25,570 --> 01:47:22,340
did major feature stories on the case I

2255
01:47:29,020 --> 01:47:25,580
had radio interviews from all over the

2256
01:47:31,420 --> 01:47:29,030
place all because I had used a little

2257
01:47:33,790 --> 01:47:31,430
bit of imagination a little bit of

2258
01:47:36,310 --> 01:47:33,800
provocation and a little bit of

2259
01:47:38,770 --> 01:47:36,320
intuition to say this is the right

2260
01:47:42,370 --> 01:47:38,780
moment and I'm the man to do this and I

2261
01:47:45,430 --> 01:47:42,380
did it and I'm as I say it's part of the

2262
01:47:47,680 --> 01:47:45,440
history and it raised public awareness

2263
01:47:52,690 --> 01:47:47,690
there's a lot of pooh-poohing that went

2264
01:47:55,420 --> 01:47:52,700
on within some media but you know what I

2265
01:47:57,940 --> 01:47:55,430
don't I don't regret having done it and

2266
01:48:00,550 --> 01:47:57,950
as I said I think it helped raise public

2267
01:48:02,590 --> 01:48:00,560
awareness about the sudras seriousness

2268
01:48:06,120 --> 01:48:02,600
of the subject matter and of course

2269
01:48:09,700 --> 01:48:06,130
Roswell took off like crazy as we know

2270
01:48:12,860 --> 01:48:09,710
when when the Air Force issued a final

2271
01:48:15,350 --> 01:48:12,870
report on the Roswell case

2272
01:48:17,840 --> 01:48:15,360
I think that that that particular

2273
01:48:21,980 --> 01:48:17,850
lawsuit of mine might have precipitated

2274
01:48:25,070 --> 01:48:21,990
the airforce having been being backed

2275
01:48:26,690 --> 01:48:25,080
into a corner and trying to to the save

2276
01:48:29,920 --> 01:48:26,700
face and come out with something that

2277
01:48:32,210 --> 01:48:29,930
the public can accept for the time being

2278
01:48:34,430 --> 01:48:32,220
you know one of the things I'm just

2279
01:48:36,890 --> 01:48:34,440
interested in here is where we stand

2280
01:48:38,480 --> 01:48:36,900
today now we have that best-selling book

2281
01:48:40,850 --> 01:48:38,490
from Leslie Kane who was on the show

2282
01:48:42,590 --> 01:48:40,860
very recently and she's doing very well

2283
01:48:44,720 --> 01:48:42,600
she's been on all sorts of TV and radio

2284
01:48:47,720 --> 01:48:44,730
shows lots of articles written about

2285
01:48:49,670 --> 01:48:47,730
that we had the latest National Press

2286
01:48:52,100 --> 01:48:49,680
Club event with Robert Hastings and Bob

2287
01:48:55,610 --> 01:48:52,110
Salas so all right now

2288
01:48:56,750 --> 01:48:55,620
in 2010 coming up to 2011 where do you

2289
01:48:59,330 --> 01:48:56,760
think it's going you think the people

2290
01:49:02,030 --> 01:48:59,340
are accepting the possible reality of

2291
01:49:04,730 --> 01:49:02,040
UFOs more today and how do we take it to

2292
01:49:07,790 --> 01:49:04,740
the next level I think there is an

2293
01:49:11,090 --> 01:49:07,800
awakening occurring it's very slow it's

2294
01:49:15,380 --> 01:49:11,100
fueled in part as you say by the the

2295
01:49:18,500 --> 01:49:15,390
news me to immediate taking serious that

2296
01:49:21,350 --> 01:49:18,510
particular press conference about which

2297
01:49:24,410 --> 01:49:21,360
I attended by lamps on the front row

2298
01:49:29,540 --> 01:49:24,420
while listening to it and absorb in the

2299
01:49:32,030 --> 01:49:29,550
history of it I we're closer to UFO

2300
01:49:36,200 --> 01:49:32,040
disclosure today then probably we've

2301
01:49:37,820 --> 01:49:36,210
ever been since since Kehoe's heyday

2302
01:49:39,850 --> 01:49:37,830
back when he was trying to get

2303
01:49:43,040 --> 01:49:39,860
congressional hearings on the subject

2304
01:49:46,970 --> 01:49:43,050
there's a in Europe and in other

2305
01:49:50,660 --> 01:49:46,980
overseas countries there's even a

2306
01:49:53,090 --> 01:49:50,670
greater level of awareness of the

2307
01:49:59,080 --> 01:49:53,100
seriousness of reports because sightings

2308
01:50:02,960 --> 01:49:59,090
continued to occur and China and Europe

2309
01:50:08,540 --> 01:50:02,970
South America and so forth we we now

2310
01:50:10,610 --> 01:50:08,550
have an opportunity to energize the

2311
01:50:13,460 --> 01:50:10,620
public's awareness and that's that's

2312
01:50:14,220 --> 01:50:13,470
exactly what we're working forward and

2313
01:50:20,340 --> 01:50:14,230
in it

2314
01:50:22,920 --> 01:50:20,350
in the Denver initiative and perhaps the

2315
01:50:24,990 --> 01:50:22,930
United Nations trying to park their

2316
01:50:27,630 --> 01:50:25,000
interest in this subject and by the way

2317
01:50:31,680 --> 01:50:27,640
there's a fellow named Mike Luckman in

2318
01:50:37,260 --> 01:50:31,690
New York City in it in the next week or

2319
01:50:40,430 --> 01:50:37,270
two he plans to announce his effort to

2320
01:50:44,400 --> 01:50:40,440
create an extraterrestrial Affairs

2321
01:50:45,870 --> 01:50:44,410
Commission in New York City by local

2322
01:50:48,060 --> 01:50:45,880
ballot initiative

2323
01:50:50,550 --> 01:50:48,070
I still get concerned about this Larry

2324
01:50:54,240 --> 01:50:50,560
that whether that helps anyone

2325
01:50:56,520 --> 01:50:54,250
investigate UFOs or can creates the

2326
01:50:58,710 --> 01:50:56,530
potential for a laughingstock wouldn't

2327
01:51:02,190 --> 01:50:58,720
be better to get scientists involved to

2328
01:51:04,020 --> 01:51:02,200
get information out worry about having

2329
01:51:07,140 --> 01:51:04,030
ET Commission's and all this other stuff

2330
01:51:09,960 --> 01:51:07,150
no scientists have dropped the ball on

2331
01:51:14,310 --> 01:51:09,970
this subject we've got a scientist in

2332
01:51:16,260 --> 01:51:14,320
the United Nations space study

2333
01:51:20,850 --> 01:51:16,270
Commission or whatever it is in the

2334
01:51:22,590 --> 01:51:20,860
United Nations and she lightweight is on

2335
01:51:25,380 --> 01:51:22,600
this subject as far as I'm concerned she

2336
01:51:26,870 --> 01:51:25,390
had an opportunity to say the United

2337
01:51:29,729 --> 01:51:26,880
Nations should take the lead on

2338
01:51:32,640 --> 01:51:29,739
scientific inquiry into this subject but

2339
01:51:34,920 --> 01:51:32,650
she really hasn't done it and that makes

2340
01:51:38,130 --> 01:51:34,930
her a lightweight and again that's a

2341
01:51:40,350 --> 01:51:38,140
lost opportunity which is it part of the

2342
01:51:41,970 --> 01:51:40,360
history of this subject there are a good

2343
01:51:46,680 --> 01:51:41,980
scientists some of them are dead now

2344
01:51:50,729 --> 01:51:46,690
like Hynek who wanted a careful reasoned

2345
01:51:52,229 --> 01:51:50,739
focused plan for research but it's not

2346
01:51:55,050 --> 01:51:52,239
going to happen because what are we

2347
01:51:58,290 --> 01:51:55,060
doing we're not studying UFOs we're

2348
01:52:02,160 --> 01:51:58,300
studying UFO reports said Hynek UFO

2349
01:52:04,640 --> 01:52:02,170
reports are a legend at this point and

2350
01:52:06,990 --> 01:52:04,650
and we've got to get off of that

2351
01:52:09,479 --> 01:52:07,000
standstill and we're gonna be on a

2352
01:52:13,170 --> 01:52:09,489
treadmill for a rest of our lives

2353
01:52:15,810 --> 01:52:13,180
local politics you know there's a saying

2354
01:52:18,450 --> 01:52:15,820
that all politics is local and it

2355
01:52:20,940 --> 01:52:18,460
certainly applies to exo politics at

2356
01:52:24,450 --> 01:52:20,950
this point in time so I encouraged

2357
01:52:26,860 --> 01:52:24,460
Lachlan to do whatever he can to to

2358
01:52:30,460 --> 01:52:26,870
follow the model of

2359
01:52:32,290 --> 01:52:30,470
and anybody else who's got the backbone

2360
01:52:34,470 --> 01:52:32,300
to Dortmund it's not going to be

2361
01:52:36,910 --> 01:52:34,480
scientists because scientists are

2362
01:52:38,920 --> 01:52:36,920
worried about their income they're

2363
01:52:40,840 --> 01:52:38,930
worried about their public status if

2364
01:52:43,240 --> 01:52:40,850
they touch this thing with a ten-foot

2365
01:52:45,390 --> 01:52:43,250
pole they want those grants from the

2366
01:52:49,120 --> 01:52:45,400
government they want they want their

2367
01:52:53,380 --> 01:52:49,130
when they go to this the tenant tenure

2368
01:52:55,030 --> 01:52:53,390
intact so I have to tell you I had no

2369
01:52:57,160 --> 01:52:55,040
faith in science at all

2370
01:53:01,150 --> 01:52:57,170
look what science has done on the global

2371
01:53:04,210 --> 01:53:01,160
warming issue it perverted the thing how

2372
01:53:07,600 --> 01:53:04,220
so how did science pervert global

2373
01:53:10,530 --> 01:53:07,610
warming well according to some some

2374
01:53:15,100 --> 01:53:10,540
detractors anyway there was a fraud

2375
01:53:17,560 --> 01:53:15,110
perpetrated by scientists in Europe

2376
01:53:19,600 --> 01:53:17,570
somewhere yeah but you know that might

2377
01:53:21,310 --> 01:53:19,610
be overextending it because what they're

2378
01:53:24,460 --> 01:53:21,320
saying is here is a small number of

2379
01:53:27,640 --> 01:53:24,470
letters were illegally disclosed and

2380
01:53:29,320 --> 01:53:27,650
they were doing shot talk and they were

2381
01:53:31,150 --> 01:53:29,330
saying things that you know one

2382
01:53:33,310 --> 01:53:31,160
scientist may say to another without

2383
01:53:35,860 --> 01:53:33,320
regard to how it looks in public and

2384
01:53:37,540 --> 01:53:35,870
that when this was investigated it was

2385
01:53:40,050 --> 01:53:37,550
found that you know what there was

2386
01:53:43,960 --> 01:53:40,060
nothing to it that there's no

2387
01:53:45,270 --> 01:53:43,970
Climategate it's all an illusion and

2388
01:53:47,950 --> 01:53:45,280
then you look of course at the past

2389
01:53:50,320 --> 01:53:47,960
summer we had record high temperatures

2390
01:53:52,420 --> 01:53:50,330
in the USA around the country and more

2391
01:53:53,830 --> 01:53:52,430
evidence of this so I don't know I think

2392
01:53:56,230 --> 01:53:53,840
we're putting too much into that

2393
01:53:58,780 --> 01:53:56,240
particular episode and the latest I've

2394
01:54:01,860 --> 01:53:58,790
read on that some some member of the

2395
01:54:04,260 --> 01:54:01,870
American Physical Society has sent a

2396
01:54:07,360 --> 01:54:04,270
rather poignant letter of resignation

2397
01:54:10,930 --> 01:54:07,370
because he went into some detail on this

2398
01:54:13,690 --> 01:54:10,940
as to why he was doing it but again that

2399
01:54:17,470 --> 01:54:13,700
just shows you right there that science

2400
01:54:19,300 --> 01:54:17,480
is run by people and people even in

2401
01:54:22,840 --> 01:54:19,310
religious bodies have serious

2402
01:54:25,270 --> 01:54:22,850
competition for for whatever reason and

2403
01:54:28,120 --> 01:54:25,280
and this is the human nature issue of

2404
01:54:32,080 --> 01:54:28,130
stuff you know if it's a political

2405
01:54:35,580 --> 01:54:32,090
matter in Sciences science can be just

2406
01:54:39,160 --> 01:54:35,590
as political as religions can be and

2407
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therefore you know it's it's a morass

2408
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I just I just say it's time to get back

2409
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to the grassroots level to two people

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who want a change who want a paradigm

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shift and that Denver initiative

2412
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certainly qualifies as a paradigm shift

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so you know I understand I just you know

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I understand I understand what you're

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saying Larry it's just I find it hard to

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take that seriously because I still

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think you know the press is gonna look

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at that if this initiative passes people

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are gonna say hahaha

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if it doesn't pass they'll say hohoho

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it's not gonna be taken seriously and it

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doesn't help you solve what should be a

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I'm Jean Steinberg co-host as Chris

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O'Brien Chris what do you think about

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that ballot initiatives and stuff like

2548
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that do you think also it has too much

2549
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of a WOW factor well I can see both

2550
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sides of the argument I think Larry does

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have a point that you know we really

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tried different approaches from

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different angles at getting the

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government to finally disclose the

2555
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extent of their knowledge about this

2556
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subject but you know I think I think

2557
02:00:56,560 --> 02:00:52,240
this whole idea of a grassroots movement

2558
02:00:58,600 --> 02:00:56,570
does have potential but you know you're

2559
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you're walking a real fine line because

2560
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as soon as you attempt to bring the

2561
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subject into the mainstream in a

2562
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political fashion such as the ballot

2563
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initiative and in Denver you do run the

2564
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risk of the giggle factor which you know

2565
02:01:17,230 --> 02:01:15,020
I think it's it's it's almost been

2566
02:01:18,700 --> 02:01:17,240
detrimental to the to the movement to

2567
02:01:20,380 --> 02:01:18,710
the effort in Denver I think the last

2568
02:01:22,480 --> 02:01:20,390
figures I saw is there's only about 10%

2569
02:01:26,020 --> 02:01:22,490
of people that are supporting it in

2570
02:01:28,780 --> 02:01:26,030
polls but having a person like Jeff

2571
02:01:31,240 --> 02:01:28,790
peckmon spearheading this after being on

2572
02:01:36,010 --> 02:01:31,250
Letterman and and doing doing the

2573
02:01:37,660 --> 02:01:36,020
mainstream media whipping post I'm not

2574
02:01:40,960 --> 02:01:37,670
sure if he's the right person to be the

2575
02:01:43,300 --> 02:01:40,970
figurehead behind this my he's quite a

2576
02:01:45,550 --> 02:01:43,310
fan of the stand romanette case for

2577
02:01:47,950 --> 02:01:45,560
instance and does touted as being you

2578
02:01:50,560 --> 02:01:47,960
know a slam dunk case that's proving

2579
02:01:53,590 --> 02:01:50,570
that aliens are here and you know you

2580
02:01:55,630 --> 02:01:53,600
have to wonder about the guy's the depth

2581
02:01:58,750 --> 02:01:55,640
of his knowledge and how well-informed

2582
02:02:01,150 --> 02:01:58,760
he is having looked into the moment that

2583
02:02:01,529 --> 02:02:01,160
case pretty pretty extensively there's

2584
02:02:04,319 --> 02:02:01,539
an

2585
02:02:06,240 --> 02:02:04,329
problems there that I I would think that

2586
02:02:08,669 --> 02:02:06,250
it's detrimental to use that case

2587
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especially like on the Letterman Show

2588
02:02:12,240 --> 02:02:10,119
and things like that it

2589
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it's muddies the water it creates a

2590
02:02:19,560 --> 02:02:16,239
larger target for the naysayers and I

2591
02:02:22,049 --> 02:02:19,570
think you need a level of gravitas that

2592
02:02:24,149 --> 02:02:22,059
we haven't seen yet I think the closest

2593
02:02:27,390 --> 02:02:24,159
says that we've gotten or Larry and

2594
02:02:30,720 --> 02:02:27,400
Peter in and in the cause initiative I

2595
02:02:32,700 --> 02:02:30,730
think we need to really get a level of

2596
02:02:35,009 --> 02:02:32,710
believability in gravitas that that's

2597
02:02:36,689 --> 02:02:35,019
unimpeachable in order for this type of

2598
02:02:39,029 --> 02:02:36,699
an effort to work and I don't see it

2599
02:02:40,919 --> 02:02:39,039
with with peckmon there's a true

2600
02:02:44,879 --> 02:02:40,929
believer then no question about that

2601
02:02:51,810 --> 02:02:44,889
oh yeah but he's also intelligent and

2602
02:02:54,450 --> 02:02:51,820
committed focused and concentrating here

2603
02:02:56,490 --> 02:02:54,460
on the Romanek case we've had Romanek on

2604
02:02:58,859 --> 02:02:56,500
the power cast and we don't believe

2605
02:03:00,839 --> 02:02:58,869
anything he says for a moment I mean the

2606
02:03:03,839 --> 02:03:00,849
evidence he produces is totally wacko

2607
02:03:07,259 --> 02:03:03,849
and maybe peckmon is sincere totally

2608
02:03:11,790 --> 02:03:07,269
sincere totally aboveboard but if he

2609
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believes in something that is just a

2610
02:03:17,490 --> 02:03:14,590
left field with no credibility his

2611
02:03:21,390 --> 02:03:17,500
credibility is hurt you know that was my

2612
02:03:24,029 --> 02:03:21,400
point Jean I think the exo politics

2613
02:03:26,370 --> 02:03:24,039
movement has been co-opted to a certain

2614
02:03:29,520 --> 02:03:26,380
extent by the true believer crowd you

2615
02:03:32,939 --> 02:03:29,530
have you know people like this

2616
02:03:37,229 --> 02:03:32,949
Webber Alfred Webre guy yeah I made a

2617
02:03:39,299 --> 02:03:37,239
statement that was accurate ever he's I

2618
02:03:42,479 --> 02:03:39,309
think he becomes part of the problem you

2619
02:03:45,029 --> 02:03:42,489
have Michael Salah you do have highly

2620
02:03:49,290 --> 02:03:45,039
visible figures in the exo political

2621
02:03:51,450 --> 02:03:49,300
movement that tend to make wild claims

2622
02:03:53,160 --> 02:03:51,460
and and embolis seem to believe

2623
02:03:55,350 --> 02:03:53,170
everything that comes down the pike and

2624
02:03:57,450 --> 02:03:55,360
and I think that that that takes away

2625
02:03:59,729 --> 02:03:57,460
from that gravitas that you need to

2626
02:04:01,470 --> 02:03:59,739
actually be taken seriously what do you

2627
02:04:05,209 --> 02:04:01,480
think Larry well it comes with a

2628
02:04:08,069 --> 02:04:05,219
territory you've got people who have a

2629
02:04:10,050 --> 02:04:08,079
religious fervor for the subject line

2630
02:04:13,560 --> 02:04:10,060
dr. Boyle and

2631
02:04:18,090 --> 02:04:13,570
a trained psychologist who relies on

2632
02:04:25,220 --> 02:04:18,100
channeling phenomenon to to to advance

2633
02:04:31,140 --> 02:04:28,440
grabbed that to nothing but exercise of

2634
02:04:34,440 --> 02:04:31,150
First Amendment right and this is what

2635
02:04:35,730 --> 02:04:34,450
we get with the Phil anybody supplier if

2636
02:04:38,280 --> 02:04:35,740
they want to come on board and they

2637
02:04:41,280 --> 02:04:38,290
bring some credentials or they bring

2638
02:04:45,450 --> 02:04:41,290
some nonsense whatever it is there's no

2639
02:04:47,250 --> 02:04:45,460
way to stop that at one point one in the

2640
02:04:49,590 --> 02:04:47,260
old nightcap days if you talked about

2641
02:04:53,150 --> 02:04:49,600
abductions you were automatically

2642
02:04:56,040 --> 02:04:53,160
labeled as some extremists but adduction

2643
02:05:00,690 --> 02:04:56,050
research now has gained some

2644
02:05:03,660 --> 02:05:00,700
respectability it's it's a what they

2645
02:05:06,720 --> 02:05:03,670
call it a continuum where are you if you

2646
02:05:08,370 --> 02:05:06,730
go from from the left side a starting

2647
02:05:10,680 --> 02:05:08,380
point you and go to the right is

2648
02:05:15,150 --> 02:05:10,690
somewhere in the middle point you can

2649
02:05:17,760 --> 02:05:15,160
have a foremost ability but as you say

2650
02:05:20,220 --> 02:05:17,770
it's actually it's a tightrope we have

2651
02:05:25,530 --> 02:05:20,230
to walk here to make sure that we don't

2652
02:05:27,840 --> 02:05:25,540
fall prey to dismissing stuff out of

2653
02:05:30,110 --> 02:05:27,850
hand but on the other hand not get so

2654
02:05:33,300 --> 02:05:30,120
credulous then you look like a damn fool

2655
02:05:35,790 --> 02:05:33,310
I don't know how you solve the problem

2656
02:05:39,350 --> 02:05:35,800
but I think it's always gonna be there

2657
02:05:42,600 --> 02:05:39,360
and every generation generates

2658
02:05:44,670 --> 02:05:42,610
the same problem over and over again we

2659
02:05:47,340 --> 02:05:44,680
seem to be making progress however I I

2660
02:05:50,340 --> 02:05:47,350
was actually quite surprised to see for

2661
02:05:52,980 --> 02:05:50,350
instance CNN covering live the Hastings

2662
02:05:55,650 --> 02:05:52,990
Hollis press conference I think that's

2663
02:05:57,510 --> 02:05:55,660
that's monumental and the new cycle

2664
02:06:00,390 --> 02:05:57,520
stories that came out the following

2665
02:06:02,730 --> 02:06:00,400
couple of days actually it seemed like

2666
02:06:05,820 --> 02:06:02,740
credible news coverage there was none of

2667
02:06:10,070 --> 02:06:05,830
the little green alien Twilight Zone

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theme asides that was attached to to the

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to the coverage and Leslie Cain's book

2670
02:06:17,820 --> 02:06:16,390
for instance I think she's an example of

2671
02:06:21,030 --> 02:06:17,830
somebody that I think has taken the

2672
02:06:23,370 --> 02:06:21,040
subject and and has applied a sufficient

2673
02:06:25,530 --> 02:06:23,380
level of gravitas to the subject and MP

2674
02:06:27,720 --> 02:06:25,540
will tend to to recognize that in the

2675
02:06:31,800 --> 02:06:27,730
media and and I think they take people

2676
02:06:34,800 --> 02:06:31,810
more seriously and we're moving forward

2677
02:06:36,959 --> 02:06:34,810
it seems to me with mainstream

2678
02:06:39,570 --> 02:06:36,969
acceptance of the subject and we really

2679
02:06:42,000 --> 02:06:39,580
need to capitalize on this and and not

2680
02:06:44,669 --> 02:06:42,010
shoot ourselves in the foot by

2681
02:06:48,660 --> 02:06:44,679
presenting legitimate research and

2682
02:06:50,939 --> 02:06:48,670
legitimate thinking alongside true

2683
02:06:53,820 --> 02:06:50,949
believer wacko ISM for lack of a better

2684
02:06:56,610 --> 02:06:53,830
term and I think it's because of people

2685
02:06:58,919 --> 02:06:56,620
like you Larry that that this we're even

2686
02:07:00,330 --> 02:06:58,929
at the place where we are today for this

2687
02:07:03,300 --> 02:07:00,340
subject to be taken seriously by the

2688
02:07:05,070 --> 02:07:03,310
mainstream media and in others in the

2689
02:07:08,010 --> 02:07:05,080
culture well one reason I've been

2690
02:07:11,689 --> 02:07:08,020
putting out these when I call UFO

2691
02:07:15,450 --> 02:07:11,699
cover-up whistleblower solicitation as

2692
02:07:17,280 --> 02:07:15,460
advertisements calling for additional

2693
02:07:19,439 --> 02:07:17,290
whistleblowers to come forward and tell

2694
02:07:22,290 --> 02:07:19,449
their stories to the public one reason

2695
02:07:25,649 --> 02:07:22,300
I'm doing that is to say to researchers

2696
02:07:27,720 --> 02:07:25,659
themselves listen we have a way of

2697
02:07:30,720 --> 02:07:27,730
seeking information but if you give us

2698
02:07:34,140 --> 02:07:30,730
the wrong leads if you lead us down a

2699
02:07:36,270 --> 02:07:34,150
path that's fraught with fraud then

2700
02:07:40,290 --> 02:07:36,280
we're not gonna make any progress and

2701
02:07:44,070 --> 02:07:40,300
it's a it's a sad signal you might say

2702
02:07:47,209 --> 02:07:44,080
to UFO researchers if you send me an

2703
02:07:50,010 --> 02:07:47,219
alleged leaked document or an alleged

2704
02:07:52,770 --> 02:07:50,020
deathbed confession I'm gonna follow up

2705
02:07:55,410 --> 02:07:52,780
on it and if it falls flat on its face

2706
02:07:58,649 --> 02:07:55,420
I'm not gonna be embarrassed by you are

2707
02:08:02,250 --> 02:07:58,659
you the one who said the information to

2708
02:08:04,740 --> 02:08:02,260
me and what do you expect me to do I'm

2709
02:08:08,610 --> 02:08:04,750
going to pursue it as best I can but if

2710
02:08:12,510 --> 02:08:08,620
it if it falls on its face the first

2711
02:08:15,330 --> 02:08:12,520
victim of that event is going to be the

2712
02:08:18,030 --> 02:08:15,340
perpetrator of the fraud let's get into

2713
02:08:19,979 --> 02:08:18,040
that in the next segment okay Larry we

2714
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have Larry Bryant longtime UFO research

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for if you click on the name Larry

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Bryant over at the power cast comm where

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the show is listed you'll go to his blog

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you also have a direct link to his book

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I'm Jean Steinberg Chris O'Brien is the

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02:13:15,150 --> 02:13:13,560
we have Larry Bryant Chris O'Brien's a

2818
02:13:17,250 --> 02:13:15,160
co-host I'm gene Steinberger in the

2819
02:13:19,470 --> 02:13:17,260
power cast and you made some interesting

2820
02:13:20,940 --> 02:13:19,480
points Larry in our last segment we got

2821
02:13:23,940 --> 02:13:20,950
two more left for this week's episode

2822
02:13:26,490 --> 02:13:23,950
and that is of course exposing the

2823
02:13:30,270 --> 02:13:26,500
fakers can you mention a few cases where

2824
02:13:33,470 --> 02:13:30,280
you looked at the information and the

2825
02:13:37,890 --> 02:13:33,480
evidence did not sustain itself I can

2826
02:13:42,110 --> 02:13:37,900
cite the case of caller Bob a few months

2827
02:13:45,090 --> 02:13:42,120
ago caller Bob as he identified himself

2828
02:13:48,090 --> 02:13:45,100
called in the coast to coast radio show

2829
02:13:50,580 --> 02:13:48,100
that George Noory host in the late night

2830
02:13:55,650 --> 02:13:50,590
hours yes we call it a ghost to ghost

2831
02:13:58,230 --> 02:13:55,660
here we call him George Snorri well

2832
02:14:01,470 --> 02:13:58,240
George took the last call of the night

2833
02:14:03,900 --> 02:14:01,480
about 3:30 in the morning Eastern Time

2834
02:14:06,390 --> 02:14:03,910
and it was a guy who says he's calling

2835
02:14:08,630 --> 02:14:06,400
from Fayetteville North Carolina which

2836
02:14:12,120 --> 02:14:08,640
is the home of Fort Bragg North Carolina

2837
02:14:17,460 --> 02:14:12,130
caller Bob says that a friend of his had

2838
02:14:21,560 --> 02:14:17,470
died and had bestowed upon caller Bob a

2839
02:14:25,110 --> 02:14:21,570
supply of 16 millimeter film

2840
02:14:28,550 --> 02:14:25,120
black-and-white and vintage film

2841
02:14:32,070 --> 02:14:28,560
apparently dating back to the fifties or

2842
02:14:33,240 --> 02:14:32,080
thereabouts and and it showed according

2843
02:14:37,680 --> 02:14:33,250
to Bob's account

2844
02:14:41,250 --> 02:14:37,690
it showed Eisenhower and the aviation

2845
02:14:44,400 --> 02:14:41,260
magnate was that they were back in those

2846
02:14:48,630 --> 02:14:44,410
days who had his own companies

2847
02:14:52,560 --> 02:14:48,640
how are you and Eisenhower were walking

2848
02:14:55,380 --> 02:14:52,570
and standing around some debris and a

2849
02:14:58,860 --> 02:14:55,390
warehouse like a facility and apparently

2850
02:15:01,770 --> 02:14:58,870
there were bodies on stretchers so call

2851
02:15:04,950 --> 02:15:01,780
her Bob was really you know hey he did

2852
02:15:07,470 --> 02:15:04,960
it he did a good performance because you

2853
02:15:10,080 --> 02:15:07,480
know it sounded so sincere and

2854
02:15:12,870 --> 02:15:10,090
everything and he supposedly left his

2855
02:15:16,230 --> 02:15:12,880
name and maybe his email address with

2856
02:15:18,510 --> 02:15:16,240
the producer of coast to coast am for

2857
02:15:22,440 --> 02:15:18,520
for them to get their heads together and

2858
02:15:25,920 --> 02:15:22,450
and somehow give access to that film to

2859
02:15:28,770 --> 02:15:25,930
coast to coast well that's what follows

2860
02:15:31,710 --> 02:15:28,780
that never happened as far as I know and

2861
02:15:35,400 --> 02:15:31,720
this has been months and months ago and

2862
02:15:38,690 --> 02:15:35,410
of course I am prepared an advertisement

2863
02:15:42,750 --> 02:15:38,700
to go on Island on something called

2864
02:15:44,460 --> 02:15:42,760
classified hwedge.com asking that if

2865
02:15:47,250 --> 02:15:44,470
there's anybody out there that can

2866
02:15:50,310 --> 02:15:47,260
corroborate the case please come forward

2867
02:15:53,040 --> 02:15:50,320
because this is uh you know the useful

2868
02:15:55,890 --> 02:15:53,050
information that if event occurred and

2869
02:15:57,810 --> 02:15:55,900
it's been filmed we need to see the film

2870
02:16:00,690 --> 02:15:57,820
and have it analyzed and we need to have

2871
02:16:03,390 --> 02:16:00,700
other witnesses to to see if it can be

2872
02:16:05,700 --> 02:16:03,400
corroborated story you know what this is

2873
02:16:07,740 --> 02:16:05,710
part and parcel of the legends we've

2874
02:16:11,310 --> 02:16:07,750
heard over the years that President

2875
02:16:14,850 --> 02:16:11,320
Eisenhower knew something about UFOs met

2876
02:16:17,730 --> 02:16:14,860
up with experts and maybe even saw et or

2877
02:16:20,870 --> 02:16:17,740
saw the spaceships does any of that have

2878
02:16:24,540 --> 02:16:20,880
any credibility at all well there's a

2879
02:16:26,400 --> 02:16:24,550
gamble as a specialist on this subject

2880
02:16:29,580 --> 02:16:26,410
matter and you may want to have him on

2881
02:16:31,980 --> 02:16:29,590
on your show sometime Pete he's I think

2882
02:16:38,040 --> 02:16:31,990
he's out in Oregon or somewhere there

2883
02:16:39,750 --> 02:16:38,050
and he he apparently had you know I take

2884
02:16:42,470 --> 02:16:39,760
the disclosure conference here in

2885
02:16:45,419 --> 02:16:42,480
Washington some months ago he had a

2886
02:16:49,140 --> 02:16:45,429
whistleblower himself a share of the

2887
02:16:52,490 --> 02:16:49,150
platform with him and a former service

2888
02:16:56,669 --> 02:16:52,500
member apparently had some secondary

2889
02:17:00,060 --> 02:16:56,679
confirmation of Ike having been at a

2890
02:17:03,839 --> 02:17:00,070
military base and been part of the

2891
02:17:07,440 --> 02:17:03,849
welcoming party to the arrival of a

2892
02:17:09,540 --> 02:17:07,450
youthful not and his spacecraft I just

2893
02:17:12,810 --> 02:17:09,550
don't know how credible that witness is

2894
02:17:15,629 --> 02:17:12,820
but as I say Who am I to dismiss it out

2895
02:17:17,160 --> 02:17:15,639
of hand and to say if you bring these

2896
02:17:20,190 --> 02:17:17,170
witnesses in a court of law

2897
02:17:23,250 --> 02:17:20,200
swear them under oath you've got to at

2898
02:17:26,040 --> 02:17:23,260
least listen to their story and why

2899
02:17:30,679 --> 02:17:26,050
somebody would be willing to jeopardize

2900
02:17:34,549 --> 02:17:30,689
his image has career saying

2901
02:17:36,799 --> 02:17:34,559
and perpetrating out like that which it

2902
02:17:37,940 --> 02:17:36,809
dismays maybe even think about it well

2903
02:17:40,400 --> 02:17:37,950
it's not the first time it's happened in

2904
02:17:45,200 --> 02:17:40,410
the UFO field let's face it yeah it's

2905
02:17:48,350 --> 02:17:45,210
probably not gonna be oh gee how hoaxes

2906
02:17:52,520 --> 02:17:48,360
come and go just like true believers and

2907
02:17:54,259 --> 02:17:52,530
and it's nothing you can do about it at

2908
02:17:57,830 --> 02:17:54,269
this point a morning you can't change

2909
02:18:01,100 --> 02:17:57,840
that this social phenomena of you fool

2910
02:18:02,780 --> 02:18:01,110
with me you know I want to go back to

2911
02:18:05,270 --> 02:18:02,790
something here we were talking before

2912
02:18:08,060 --> 02:18:05,280
you know about whistleblowers people

2913
02:18:10,969 --> 02:18:08,070
have innate knowledge but then the other

2914
02:18:12,350 --> 02:18:10,979
issue is government intervention and

2915
02:18:14,570 --> 02:18:12,360
I'll mention a couple of cases because

2916
02:18:18,129 --> 02:18:14,580
there's a book out from Nicholas Redfern

2917
02:18:20,509 --> 02:18:18,139
called contactees animations the case of

2918
02:18:23,299 --> 02:18:20,519
Orfeo angelou Chi one of the common

2919
02:18:25,820 --> 02:18:23,309
contactees where supposedly he met up

2920
02:18:27,889 --> 02:18:25,830
with a military guy in a diner takes his

2921
02:18:30,379 --> 02:18:27,899
drug and it's like an LSD trip you know

2922
02:18:33,230 --> 02:18:30,389
he's seeing all sorts of weird expanded

2923
02:18:35,270 --> 02:18:33,240
effects we have the late Howard manager

2924
02:18:38,060 --> 02:18:35,280
well I think died this year or last year

2925
02:18:40,129 --> 02:18:38,070
I forget anyway manger had the

2926
02:18:42,200 --> 02:18:40,139
traditional contactees you know the

2927
02:18:44,629 --> 02:18:42,210
blonde Venusians or saturnians or

2928
02:18:46,969 --> 02:18:44,639
whatever they are and then he says you

2929
02:18:49,250 --> 02:18:46,979
know what I think that I was part of a

2930
02:18:50,719 --> 02:18:49,260
government experiment now what do you

2931
02:18:53,570 --> 02:18:50,729
think about these people just making it

2932
02:18:56,360 --> 02:18:53,580
all up or were they parts of government

2933
02:19:01,310 --> 02:18:56,370
experiments well you know the CIA did

2934
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run some sort of LSD based experimental

2935
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program with maybe using some well I

2936
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will admit there was one guy that

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apparently jumped out of a window in New

2938
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York or somewhere and killed himself

2939
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because he he had been a subject of that

2940
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experimentation that Franco listenger

2941
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what do you say Frank Olson yeah he

2942
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actually was working for Sidney Gottlieb

2943
02:19:29,419 --> 02:19:26,340
in the Army chemical Corps on the Wonder

2944
02:19:33,350 --> 02:19:29,429
I think MKULTRA he was actually a member

2945
02:19:34,969 --> 02:19:33,360
of the of the team and yeah they they

2946
02:19:36,679 --> 02:19:34,979
pulled a fast one on him and he ended up

2947
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going out I think a 14th floor window in

2948
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midtown his son Eric has

2949
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quite a bit of work in the last few

2950
02:19:44,800 --> 02:19:42,831
years trying to get to the bottom of

2951
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that whole case and I do applaud his

2952
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efforts to finally get closure for his

2953
02:19:51,961 --> 02:19:49,671
family I mean it's not impossible that

2954
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the government can resort to

2955
02:19:59,621 --> 02:19:54,771
experimentation for example the now only

2956
02:20:02,201 --> 02:19:59,631
I think it was inflicted some Jamaicans

2957
02:20:04,180 --> 02:20:02,211
or some Caribbeans or somewhere along

2958
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the way they inflicted syphilis on them

2959
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just experiment with with finding cure

2960
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for syphilis the trouble is they didn't

2961
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notify the experiment ease of what was

2962
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going on and this was a major ethical

2963
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breach so it's not beyond the government

2964
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to go over the pale and in their

2965
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research work it's unfortunate and it

2966
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has happened well how is your getting

2967
02:20:35,261 --> 02:20:32,150
back to the whistleblower thing again

2968
02:20:36,941 --> 02:20:35,271
how he has that that project panned out

2969
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I know that you have been placing ads

2970
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and I think you would denied ad

2971
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placement in some government

2972
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publications if I remember correctly but

2973
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how long have you been doing this and

2974
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what sort of results are you saying well

2975
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it began back in the mid eighties after

2976
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I had finished with that habeas corpus

2977
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petition I decided well you know I need

2978
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to get collaborative evidence if I'm

2979
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going to get anywhere with this approach

2980
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so I started placing ads and military

2981
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newspapers papers published by Army Navy

2982
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Air Force Marines wherever I could put a

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classified ad and the announcements

2984
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section of the ad pages of these weekly

2985
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post and based newspapers these are

2986
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government-owned newspapers that serve

2987
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the interest of personnel working at the

2988
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installation and a few of the

2989
02:21:34,451 --> 02:21:32,121
installations would publish the ads but

2990
02:21:36,881 --> 02:21:34,461
most of them said nope we can't run this

2991
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ad and then and every now and then they

2992
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say the reason is we're prohibited from

2993
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running political ads well sure those

2994
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are politics my friend right yes

2995
02:21:49,451 --> 02:21:47,721
technically it is a political subject

2996
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it's in the broadest sense of the term

2997
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but so what political speech is pure

2998
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speech it should be protected and as I

2999
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say the I had scores of these ads

3000
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actually published mostly in the

3001
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National Capital Region by the Army's

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pentagram newspaper the Bolling Air

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Force Base newspaper on the Walter Reed

3004
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Army Medical Center the newspaper and

3005
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they would publish the ads and and I

3006
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would get no replies from anybody but

3007
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I'm like going to that in a moment Larry

3008
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we have one or seven coming up

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Larry Bryan joins us this week on the

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3121
02:27:07,920 --> 02:27:05,761
Chris O'Brien's the co host Larry

3122
02:27:09,841 --> 02:27:07,930
Brian's the guest I'm gene Steinberger

3123
02:27:12,830 --> 02:27:09,851
in the power cast so you put up all

3124
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these ads but you're saying basically

3125
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none ever produce any responses no

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except that a an employee in the

3127
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building saw one of the ads and he

3128
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tracked me down and he came to my house

3129
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and introduced himself and says I saw

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your ad in the pentagram the name of the

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newspaper and we got to be friends we

3132
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had we'd have lunch together and

3133
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eventually he started publishing his own

3134
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3135
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are friends today he's still working

3136
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where he and the agency they work with

3137
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and he's still interested in the subject

3138
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he just doesn't print the newsletter

3139
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because newsletters as you say they're

3140
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very ephemeral made you don't make money

3141
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off of UFO newsletters so you lose money

3142
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just bring your own time and effort on

3143
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them and and eventually you realize it's

3144
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not worth the effort and this is what

3145
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happened to him but at least one person

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02:28:24,060 --> 02:28:22,240
sympathetic response did contact me

3147
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because of the ads and then yeah you

3148
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know I you know I still say that was

3149
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worth the effort because I've created a

3150
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network of people who are interested in

3151
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what I'm doing online people who send me

3152
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catch they send me a possible contact

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points and so forth so it hasn't been a

3154
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waste of my time certainly it's helped

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me in my writing effort when you write

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an ad and especially if you're paying

3157
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for the copy yeah you want to make sure

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every word counts you don't sit there

3159
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and just just dribble along with your

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verbage you realize that every words

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it's costing your money so you you

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tighten up your writing ability you

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learn the gift of brevity yes and let me

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ask you a question here you work for the

3165
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government for many years before you

3166
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retired in the 1990s

3167
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did your superiors ever come back to you

3168
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and say you know Larry you're wrong

3169
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about that UFO stuff yes I did they

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didn't like it they let me know that in

3171
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subtle ways and sometimes not subtle

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ways and at one point I had to to get

3173
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legal counsels because of the pressure

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that was being put on me by my employer

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who did not like that ad campaign they

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they made it very clear to me back in

3177
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the early 90s that actually the late 80s

3178
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that I was persona non grata and

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eventually I was able to be the first

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recipient of that agency's pension

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sweetener 25k to go away twenty-five

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thousand dollars they gave me to retire

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I could have retired and with age 55 but

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I was holding out until age fifty six or

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seven eventually they came to me and

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made me an offer I couldn't refuse and

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that helped me pay off my mortgage and

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now I'm mortgage free and I'm able to to

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have a decent annuity and it all kind of

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worked out but it was there were some

3191
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rough moments there where I was worried

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about my career and my economic status

3193
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because I touched a nerve with

3194
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myself but I had the audacity to

3196
02:31:11,610 --> 02:31:08,080
encourage whistleblowers ships which was

3197
02:31:14,219 --> 02:31:11,620
just something that officialdom could

3198
02:31:19,380 --> 02:31:14,229
not stomach at the time you were an

3199
02:31:22,590 --> 02:31:19,390
enabler yes and that was a in their

3200
02:31:24,059 --> 02:31:22,600
minds approaching treason I'm sure

3201
02:31:27,630 --> 02:31:24,069
that's what they probably thought at

3202
02:31:29,070 --> 02:31:27,640
that point and but again you have to do

3203
02:31:30,780 --> 02:31:29,080
what your conscience tells you

3204
02:31:35,490 --> 02:31:30,790
if you know you're the only person that

3205
02:31:37,469 --> 02:31:35,500
can do the way you are pursuing the the

3206
02:31:38,880 --> 02:31:37,479
approach you have to keep doing it

3207
02:31:40,380 --> 02:31:38,890
because your conscience says you're

3208
02:31:43,170 --> 02:31:40,390
doing the right thing for the public

3209
02:31:45,000 --> 02:31:43,180
interest Chris you got a final question

3210
02:31:46,559 --> 02:31:45,010
or two before we let him you know I just

3211
02:31:48,410 --> 02:31:46,569
wanted to make an observation that boy

3212
02:31:52,650 --> 02:31:48,420
I'll tell you it takes it takes some

3213
02:31:54,599 --> 02:31:52,660
some mental toughness to deal with that

3214
02:31:57,570 --> 02:31:54,609
kind of pressure and you know hats off

3215
02:32:00,179 --> 02:31:57,580
to Larry for for attempting to you know

3216
02:32:02,099 --> 02:32:00,189
get people to come forward and get that

3217
02:32:04,349 --> 02:32:02,109
corroborating evidence that we need to

3218
02:32:06,389 --> 02:32:04,359
to be taken seriously by the courts and

3219
02:32:07,830 --> 02:32:06,399
by the government it's only when we get

3220
02:32:10,590 --> 02:32:07,840
all our ducks in a row that we're gonna

3221
02:32:12,719 --> 02:32:10,600
be able to to to really take this thing

3222
02:32:15,360 --> 02:32:12,729
a step forward well Larry where do you

3223
02:32:18,540 --> 02:32:15,370
see the field going now we talked about

3224
02:32:20,550 --> 02:32:18,550
this news found acceptance in the media

3225
02:32:22,860 --> 02:32:20,560
we've talked about the difficulty of

3226
02:32:26,820 --> 02:32:22,870
getting kids involved and keeping them

3227
02:32:28,830 --> 02:32:26,830
focused and and not pre-programmed or

3228
02:32:30,360 --> 02:32:28,840
front-loaded by the culture where do you

3229
02:32:33,330 --> 02:32:30,370
see this going do you do you actually

3230
02:32:35,820 --> 02:32:33,340
see a possibility of disclosure anytime

3231
02:32:37,980 --> 02:32:35,830
soon or is this just a pipe dream the

3232
02:32:40,860 --> 02:32:37,990
best disclosure that can be is for

3233
02:32:43,410 --> 02:32:40,870
landing on the White House lawn but

3234
02:32:47,000 --> 02:32:43,420
other than that that I'm hoping that

3235
02:32:50,309 --> 02:32:47,010
some people in the know maybe are like

3236
02:32:52,250 --> 02:32:50,319
300 people that have the hardcore

3237
02:32:55,889 --> 02:32:52,260
evidence at their fingertips

3238
02:32:58,620 --> 02:32:55,899
maybe these people as they die off will

3239
02:33:02,460 --> 02:32:58,630
create what I call deathbed confessions

3240
02:33:05,070 --> 02:33:02,470
which they summarize their first-hand

3241
02:33:06,840 --> 02:33:05,080
knowledge of the cover-up maybe it

3242
02:33:09,750 --> 02:33:06,850
attached some documents to the

3243
02:33:12,719 --> 02:33:09,760
confession maybe videotape themselves as

3244
02:33:15,150 --> 02:33:12,729
they read the thing for posterity this

3245
02:33:18,389 --> 02:33:15,160
is something that should be done every

3246
02:33:23,219 --> 02:33:18,399
every decade as these people die off

3247
02:33:25,200 --> 02:33:23,229
because without them we have no no

3248
02:33:28,410 --> 02:33:25,210
progress you know one thing that we

3249
02:33:30,150 --> 02:33:28,420
focus on the US and we know UFOs are

3250
02:33:33,150 --> 02:33:30,160
being investigated around the world

3251
02:33:35,940 --> 02:33:33,160
so other than releasing sightings that

3252
02:33:38,309 --> 02:33:35,950
present no further proof just more of

3253
02:33:41,070 --> 02:33:38,319
the same thing why don't we see other

3254
02:33:42,250 --> 02:33:41,080
governments releasing something or are

3255
02:33:44,679 --> 02:33:42,260
all the governments

3256
02:33:46,570 --> 02:33:44,689
complicit working together to keep this

3257
02:33:48,519 --> 02:33:46,580
a secret

3258
02:33:50,620 --> 02:33:48,529
to some degree they are all working

3259
02:33:53,290 --> 02:33:50,630
together they have alliances you know

3260
02:33:56,139 --> 02:33:53,300
then NATO people and then the Soviet

3261
02:34:00,099 --> 02:33:56,149
bloc and Alliance and all that good and

3262
02:34:01,809 --> 02:34:00,109
the South American alliances and they

3263
02:34:04,540 --> 02:34:01,819
they get their heads together and then

3264
02:34:08,530 --> 02:34:04,550
they they evaluate the the desirability

3265
02:34:11,710 --> 02:34:08,540
on desirability of coming forward yeah

3266
02:34:16,660 --> 02:34:11,720
but one thing about the future with all

3267
02:34:23,500 --> 02:34:16,670
the telephone the cell phone photographs

3268
02:34:27,400 --> 02:34:23,510
and videotaped cases that UFO encounters

3269
02:34:29,920 --> 02:34:27,410
this is this is the element of non

3270
02:34:32,349 --> 02:34:29,930
control that the government has when a

3271
02:34:34,480 --> 02:34:32,359
guy goes out and videotapes an object

3272
02:34:40,090 --> 02:34:34,490
hovering 100 feet over his head in broad

3273
02:34:42,219 --> 02:34:40,100
daylight that that's evidence and it's a

3274
02:34:45,730 --> 02:34:42,229
compelling evidence because the

3275
02:34:48,670 --> 02:34:45,740
government can't control it and I see

3276
02:34:52,599 --> 02:34:48,680
that technological breakthrough as being

3277
02:34:56,500 --> 02:34:52,609
possibly the tipping point for UFO

3278
02:34:57,849 --> 02:34:56,510
disclosure so can you pinpoint a day do

3279
02:35:06,849 --> 02:34:57,859
you think it's going to happen next year

3280
02:35:09,219 --> 02:35:06,859
in five years what I just can't tell you

3281
02:35:12,429 --> 02:35:09,229
that listen I've been in the field for

3282
02:35:14,860 --> 02:35:12,439
53 years and there's been very little

3283
02:35:16,780 --> 02:35:14,870
progress accepted into government

3284
02:35:19,750 --> 02:35:16,790
through the project Bluebook stuff

3285
02:35:21,370 --> 02:35:19,760
that's been archived and some of the OSI

3286
02:35:24,400 --> 02:35:21,380
from the Air Force some of their

3287
02:35:27,309 --> 02:35:24,410
microfilm material all that stuff is

3288
02:35:29,349 --> 02:35:27,319
part of the history and it's sitting

3289
02:35:31,660 --> 02:35:29,359
there like the Ark of the Covenant and

3290
02:35:36,730 --> 02:35:31,670
the bottom of a warehouse surrounded by

3291
02:35:39,910 --> 02:35:36,740
other material buried there for for eons

3292
02:35:42,519 --> 02:35:39,920
and we're sitting here talking about it

3293
02:35:44,769 --> 02:35:42,529
and not making progress we're just about

3294
02:35:46,660 --> 02:35:44,779
out of time here tell our listeners

3295
02:35:49,780 --> 02:35:46,670
where they can find more of the things

3296
02:35:55,410 --> 02:35:49,790
that you write about you can eat my

3297
02:36:03,550 --> 02:35:55,420
email address is o ve RT CI over

3298
02:36:06,300 --> 02:36:03,560
at keV tell CA v te L net that's that's

3299
02:36:09,069 --> 02:36:06,310
the best way to contact me welcome

3300
02:36:12,160 --> 02:36:09,079
whistleblowers to to contact me with any

3301
02:36:14,380 --> 02:36:12,170
leaves they might want to share and all

3302
02:36:16,450 --> 02:36:14,390
I can tell your audience is keep asking

3303
02:36:18,490 --> 02:36:16,460
questions or the right people because

3304
02:36:21,069 --> 02:36:18,500
that's what I'm gonna take keep doing

3305
02:36:22,689 --> 02:36:21,079
Chris O'Brien tell our listeners where

3306
02:36:25,389 --> 02:36:22,699
we can always find more of your stuff

3307
02:36:27,969 --> 02:36:25,399
well I do have a website it's our

3308
02:36:30,090 --> 02:36:27,979
strange planet oh you are strange planet

3309
02:36:32,679 --> 02:36:30,100
calm of course I do

3310
02:36:35,920 --> 02:36:32,689
hang out from time to time as a

3311
02:36:38,500 --> 02:36:35,930
moderator on the podcast forum so you

3312
02:36:41,340 --> 02:36:38,510
might see some of my bad jokes and very

3313
02:36:43,929 --> 02:36:41,350
opinionated thinking there and of course

3314
02:36:46,030 --> 02:36:43,939
co-host here at spare cast so keep tuned

3315
02:36:47,530 --> 02:36:46,040
in Chris O'Brien thank you for

3316
02:36:50,019 --> 02:36:47,540
co-hosting another episode

3317
02:36:52,420 --> 02:36:50,029
Larry Bryant thank you for being a guest

3318
02:36:55,120 --> 02:36:52,430
this week on the power cast thank you

3319
02:36:57,280 --> 02:36:55,130
both for has me and check back with me

3320
02:37:03,880 --> 02:36:57,290
in six months okay thanks for being on

3321
02:37:08,990 --> 02:37:06,590
mrs. caloway the presentation of making

3322
02:37:12,660 --> 02:37:09,000
the impossible incorporated tune in next

3323
02:37:19,270 --> 02:37:12,670
week for a new adventure in America